i forgot to mention that when we went to run the green on Tue, the gate at the paradice lot had been torn down

It wouldn't be a bad idea to pool some money together and try to help repair the gate. I talked to the owner a couple weeks back and WKC has been overdue on thier fee to use the lot for a few years. I sent an email to WKC, but never recieved confirmation that they have taken care of the issue. We don't want to lose this access location. And it looks like the owner has reason to have his patience/willingness to start running thin.

I'll put in $20. I can also take care of getting the money to the owner. Who else is in? Any WKC folks want to make sure the dues are paid and see if anyone on that forum wants to contribute.

I have been there when the historical society people are there keeping the gate open, but not really monitoring it. I find it pretty confusing. Maybe we need to have some kind of discussion with them about what exactly the gate policy should be?

I had a lot to say here but I will save my rant for kayaking with Jp tommorrow.


I will definitely contribute money to keep this access... But I would like to see the money collection well organized.

It is also important to make sure the land owner knows that it is general kayakers not just the WKC.

Maybe even AW could get involved? Just sayins that is what they do right?

Nicole LeBlanc from WKC said she will contact the landowner.  If anyone needs her email address to coordinate with the PP end of things I will PM it to you.

To be fixed corectly the gate needs beefed up so it can't be pulled over.
There needs to be holes dug in each post location.
New posts inside a rebar cage poured in
concrete. Then you can build the gate.
After you have a design, with multiple
lock loctations, and its welded together
you can then paint.
It also needs to be agreed to by the owner.

RPMMAX

Is it unwise to be there this weekend?

So Nicole talked with the owner and he is aware of the problem and will be assessing what needs to be done over the next few days.  She let him know that a number of people, including but not limited to WKC, have offered to help with expenses and labor.  He will probably get back to her this coming week with a better idea of it will take to get things taken care of.

As far as the fee for access, WKC does pay yearly and she is working to make sure that they are current.  There is also a standing offer from the club to help with
any upkeep of the access area outside of what is done during the annual Green River Cleanup.

OK, that's all I got.  Nice to see people offering to pitch in with funds and help - it's such a great access spot to two beautiful sections of river for boaters from II to V, how do you put a price on that? :)

Hey JP,  I'm fine being the unofficial liaison, I'm online quite a bit anyway.  If I become official though I definitely want a hat, or something.  Something diplomatish.  Just surprise me. ;)

I think the next steps are to hear what the owner things it will take to get things corrected, and in the meantime to pool funds in an organized manner, and also keep track of people who have offered to help with a work party and/or supplies.

Darren offered to take care of the funds, and since he is all fireman-y and basically the kind of person you'd trust to carry yourself and your pets out of a burning building, I think he would be a good person for the funds collecting. :)  As long as he's still up for it, obviously.

Not sure how this will affect your run tomorrow JP, but Nicole didn't mention access being closed off at this point. 

I'm in for $20 and/or helping out.

Rather than fix the gate, we should fix relations with the resort owner so we can use the stairs once again.

Wow, bum deal about the gate! As much as I agree that it can be confusing to know when or when not to lock the gate when you see vehicles in there, I've always gone with the thought that whoever was on the property before, probably got there from opening the gate themselves; I've never seen the gate just "hanging open"... It's regrettable that the gate was open for someone to go into the property, but that being said, I also think it was kinda dumb on the driver's part to proceed onto a gated property that has a lock on it... it's unfortunate all around, and I sincerely hope that we don't lose that access!