Professor Paddle™ © Professor Paddle
  RegisterRegister  LoginLogin
Home Calendar Forum FSBO Gallery PPages News & Reviews Rivers Trips Links
  Active TopicsActive Topics  Display List of Forum MembersMemberlist  Search The ForumSearch
Whitewater Forum
 Professor Paddle : General : Whitewater Forum
Message Icon Topic: Chetco Post Reply Post New Topic
Page  of 2 Next >>
Author Message
slickhorn
Admin
Admin
Avatar
IK MainiYak

Joined: 22 Feb 2007
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1209
Props: +72 / -5
  Quote slickhorn Reply0 props     bullet Topic: Chetco
    Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 8:47am
Back from the Chetco.  Wowee! 

10 mile hike in through Biscuit Fire carnage.  Putin at Curtis Creek, about 3 low volume miles above Slide Creek.  The run was quite good, chock full of IV with III anytime a corner threatened to pass without a rapid.  Little wood.  Pretty deep wilderness.

day 1: drive to Selma, OR.  Run shuttle to Brookings. 
day 2: 10 mile hike to Curtis Creek confluence via babyfoot lake trailhead
day 3: 6 miles to taggart bar
day 4: 6 miles, out and past first big IV gorge
day 5: ~8 miles to Boulder Creek
day 6: out to steel bridge (putin for conehead/candy cane gorge)


Hiking through the Biscuit Fire carnage


Lush wilderness canyon


The first standout IV rapid


The big V in the upper gorge, usually a portage


boat scouting a tight chute


Goodies in the inner gorge


Brace for dear life!


Ledgey Goodness


Perhaps the tightest bedrock pinch in the canyon


loungin' poolside








-Brian Vogt
http://www.wwik.org/
IP IP Logged Send Private Message Send Private Message
Jed Hawkes
Rio Banditos
Rio Banditos
Avatar

Joined: 24 Aug 2008
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 578
Props: +35 / -2
  Quote Jed Hawkes Reply0 props     bullet Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 9:04am
woah, looks rad.
The line will become apparent
978-273-7723
IP IP Logged Send Private Message Send Private Message
The NZA
Rock Bumper
Rock Bumper
Avatar

Joined: 23 Apr 2012
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 42
Props: +1 / 0
  Quote The NZA Reply0 props     bullet Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 9:04am
This looks awesome. I need to get my Alpacka up in this!
IP IP Logged Send Private Message
JoesKayak
Rio Banditos
Rio Banditos
Avatar

Joined: 07 Nov 2006
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 967
Props: +30 / -2
  Quote JoesKayak Reply0 props     bullet Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 9:07am
Don't know why you bother with this crap when you got the Duwamish in your back yard.
IP IP Logged Send Private Message Send Private Message
James
Admin
Admin
Avatar
Tech. Admin

Joined: 31 Dec 2004
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 3255
Props: +386 / -87
  Quote James Reply0 props     bullet Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 10:02am
Looks amazing in there... but I bet that there was very little industrial waste in the eddies and probably no overpasses with bum camps. Brian probably just had a few extra vacation days so he tried to find another river that could compare with his backyard stretch.... While I don't think he succeeded it would appear that he still had a good time.

Any fishing done on that trip? Chetco is pretty well known for it.


IP IP Logged Send Private Message Send Private Message
slickhorn
Admin
Admin
Avatar
IK MainiYak

Joined: 22 Feb 2007
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1209
Props: +72 / -5
  Quote slickhorn Reply0 props     bullet Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 10:30am
yup, lots of fresh trout being pulled.  better luck with the spinner than the fly rig, but that may have just been effort. 

tons of newts too.  and had a brown bear swim the river right in front of us, then watch us for about 5 minutes from the bank. 
-Brian Vogt
http://www.wwik.org/
IP IP Logged Send Private Message Send Private Message
The NZA
Rock Bumper
Rock Bumper
Avatar

Joined: 23 Apr 2012
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 42
Props: +1 / 0
You must be logged in to give props!!
  Quote The NZA Reply0 props     bullet Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 10:36am
Cool bear sighting! I saw 7 the day I was up on the Queets on Memorial Day.
IP IP Logged Send Private Message
James
Admin
Admin
Avatar
Tech. Admin

Joined: 31 Dec 2004
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 3255
Props: +386 / -87
  Quote James Reply0 props     bullet Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 10:44am
Brian if you went back would you be willing to pack no food and live off the river?

That is how I determine if the fishing is off the hook so to speak.
IP IP Logged Send Private Message Send Private Message
slickhorn
Admin
Admin
Avatar
IK MainiYak

Joined: 22 Feb 2007
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1209
Props: +72 / -5
  Quote slickhorn Reply0 props     bullet Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 10:46am
I wouldn't, but then, I don't eat fish. 

For perspective this was a close second to the Lil NF Clearwater.  I don't think anyone fished more than a half hour any given day, and 2 fatties for dinner were available anytime. 

consensus was take 2 more days, using fish to extend the food supply. 

Cool bear story, NZA, I think my record is 8 bears ... in a whole year!
-Brian Vogt
http://www.wwik.org/
IP IP Logged Send Private Message Send Private Message
James
Admin
Admin
Avatar
Tech. Admin

Joined: 31 Dec 2004
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 3255
Props: +386 / -87
  Quote James Reply0 props     bullet Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 11:50am
my record is a bit more than 8 beers in a day.... oh wait bears... my bad

This little chetco might have to go on the hit list for another year...
IP IP Logged Send Private Message Send Private Message
jP
Rio Banditos
Rio Banditos
Avatar
Diddle Fuerte Diablo !

Joined: 15 Oct 2005
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 3556
Props: +122 / -19
  Quote jP Reply0 props     bullet Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 12:18pm
No doubt. As usual, Professor Slick brings back for us a stellar report of adventures pursued well.

Looks like an awesome trip, Brian!
Somebody has got to take the unpopular stances and voice the flipside of the coin. Its not that I want that job, but someone has to do it.
IP IP Logged Send Private Message Send Private Message
not-very-clever
Splat Wheeler
Splat Wheeler


Joined: 04 Jun 2008
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 103
Props: +13 / -11
  Quote not-very-clever Reply0 props     bullet Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 2:46pm
what do you get when you cross a bear with a deer?


a beer
IP IP Logged Send Private Message Send Private Message
Jed Hawkes
Rio Banditos
Rio Banditos
Avatar

Joined: 24 Aug 2008
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 578
Props: +35 / -2
  Quote Jed Hawkes Reply0 props     bullet Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 3:16pm
Originally posted by James

my record is a bit more than 8 beers in a day.... oh wait bears... my bad



And by a bit more I assume you mean multiples of 8?
The line will become apparent
978-273-7723
IP IP Logged Send Private Message Send Private Message
justin
Big Boofer
Big Boofer
Avatar

Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 673
Props: +7 / -2
  Quote justin Reply0 props     bullet Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 3:40pm
Man, I wanna retire and go boat that.
IP IP Logged Send Private Message Send Private Message
slickhorn
Admin
Admin
Avatar
IK MainiYak

Joined: 22 Feb 2007
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1209
Props: +72 / -5
  Quote slickhorn Reply0 props     bullet Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 4:41pm
the gent who ran the pack train in for us had paddled it before -- he spent a month in there.

I'm doing it all wrong!!! lol
-Brian Vogt
http://www.wwik.org/
IP IP Logged Send Private Message Send Private Message
slickhorn
Admin
Admin
Avatar
IK MainiYak

Joined: 22 Feb 2007
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1209
Props: +72 / -5
  Quote slickhorn Reply0 props     bullet Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 5:41pm
oh, and also, there actually is a little chetco. you can chopper in to camp emily and run it down to the main chetco. confluence was 1.5 miles above our putin. private inholding allows the chopper access in the wilderness.

I'd go back in a heartbeat, anytime. The real question will be access, it's touch to carry enough gear and food in solo for a nice long trip. Thus, the horse packing ... but hopefully that's now available with the good folks who helped us out.

If not, I think low flow + packraft + fishin gear is the ideal toolset. but I'd like to see it with more flow.
-Brian Vogt
http://www.wwik.org/
IP IP Logged Send Private Message Send Private Message
SPerillo
Viener Schnitzel
Viener Schnitzel


Joined: 16 Dec 2011
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 17
Props: +0 / 0
  Quote SPerillo Reply0 props     bullet Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 7:01pm
Chetco....so hot right now
IP IP Logged Send Private Message
The NZA
Rock Bumper
Rock Bumper
Avatar

Joined: 23 Apr 2012
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 42
Props: +1 / 0
  Quote The NZA Reply0 props     bullet Posted: 22 Jun 2012 at 12:40pm
Hit me up if you ever go back there. Doing rivers/canyons like this is exactly why I bought an Alpacka!
IP IP Logged Send Private Message
slickhorn
Admin
Admin
Avatar
IK MainiYak

Joined: 22 Feb 2007
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1209
Props: +72 / -5
  Quote slickhorn Reply+1 props     bullet Posted: 22 Jun 2012 at 2:31pm
Will do.  Will likely try again next season. 

I started working on making this trip happen in 2003.  That's how long it has taken to suss out the logistics.  Unless you go super fast or uber light, it's pretty tough to self-pack in all the gear.  And the trails are in a terrible state for stock, and there are almost no licensed packers in the area.  It ain't an Illinois class II logistics situation.

Plus, all of the access trails were essentially hosed by the biscuit fire.  Zach took 12 hours to go the last 4 miles to the river -- on his SECOND day of hiking in last year. Logistics matter.

In future, a comfortable trip will depend on the trail maintenance work done by the Siskiyou mountain club.  There are hundreds of snags per mile waiting to come down on the trail, so the work needed to keep it open for horses or hikers is extensive, and will need to be repeated annually at least.

As to the troll comment about the chetco being hot, well, like I said it took me 9 years to pull this off.  but yes, it is a lame totally known run even duckies can run, not special at all -- so please STAY OUT OF THERE!  You're welcome to go back to debating whether a class II+ wave on the wenatchee has changed or not ...  keep it core, core boater.
-Brian Vogt
http://www.wwik.org/
IP IP Logged Send Private Message Send Private Message
shap
Viener Schnitzel
Viener Schnitzel


Joined: 17 Jan 2010
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 14
Props: +0 / 0
  Quote shap Reply0 props     bullet Posted: 10 Jul 2012 at 2:51pm

I was on this trip, I can vouch for its badass-ness!  Access is the long term problem.

IP IP Logged Send Private Message
slickhorn
Admin
Admin
Avatar
IK MainiYak

Joined: 22 Feb 2007
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1209
Props: +72 / -5
  Quote slickhorn Reply0 props     bullet Posted: 10 Jul 2012 at 2:55pm
SHAP!!  welcome to qp!
-Brian Vogt
http://www.wwik.org/
IP IP Logged Send Private Message Send Private Message
awskitc
Viener Schnitzel
Viener Schnitzel


Joined: 06 Jul 2012
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 12
Props: +1 / 0
  Quote awskitc Reply0 props     bullet Posted: 10 Jul 2012 at 8:50pm
This is something i'd love to do! And I have time now. Whats the level like, how long does it stay running, and do you need more water for a creeker rather than a ducky?
IP IP Logged Send Private Message
slickhorn
Admin
Admin
Avatar
IK MainiYak

Joined: 22 Feb 2007
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1209
Props: +72 / -5
  Quote slickhorn Reply0 props     bullet Posted: 10 Jul 2012 at 9:37pm
too low, runs into june, and I'd think so.

but it's well worth planning for another year.
-Brian Vogt
http://www.wwik.org/
IP IP Logged Send Private Message Send Private Message
thad2000
Super Looper
Super Looper
Avatar

Joined: 20 Jul 2011
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 156
Props: +4 / 0
  Quote thad2000 Reply0 props     bullet Posted: 11 Jul 2012 at 4:34am
Great pics.. fodder for fantasy. :) The hike, aside from the bush beating, sounds like it was nice too. I say sail in on an airship made of IK's filled with helium. :)
p.s. any eucalypti on the trail. (obscure joke with self regarding a glorious way to die.) the trip looked increadible... beautiful water.
why not!
IP IP Logged Send Private Message Send Private Message
shap
Viener Schnitzel
Viener Schnitzel


Joined: 17 Jan 2010
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 14
Props: +0 / 0
  Quote shap Reply0 props     bullet Posted: 11 Jul 2012 at 8:40am
Originally posted by awskitc

This is something i'd love to do! And I have time now. Whats the level like, how long does it stay running, and do you need more water for a creeker rather than a ducky?
I think you want to be in there as late as possible to minimize the risk of being hit by a big storm and being in serious peril.  There really is no way out from the vast majority of this run.  The river was running from 475 at put in down to about 375 cfs at takeout (lower Chetco River gage).  I think this is hte lowest minimum flow for a mostly "in boat" IK trip. You would want more for a hard boat for sure, but I am not sure how much more.  This year, this flow range occurred or was slightly exceeded for about the 1st  two weeks in June, then for another week latter June after the river dropped and then came back up a bit, not it is too low.
 
Regarding the fishing, tossing a spinner or spoon, you pretty much catch a large cutthroat in very nice pool on your first cast, but only one.  Then you have to move to the next pool.   I caught dinner 2 nights in a row, catching a couple nice fish in about  10 minutes both days, then fished another 20 or 30 minutes for fun to see what else might be lurking.


Edited by shap - 11 Jul 2012 at 8:42am
IP IP Logged Send Private Message
Page  of 2 Next >>
Post Reply Post New Topic
Printable version Printable version

Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot create polls in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

™ © // Home In total there are 14 Active Users online, 14 Guest(s) and 0 Member(s)