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  Quote jerryclayross Replybullet Topic: which green river gauge is right?
    Posted: 03 Jan 2013 at 10:22am
Hey all,

So, I'm confused.  I'm always interested in getting on the Green River since it's so close to home, but it seems like there are three different gauges showing flow levels.  For example, right now...

headworks section says-              1120
upper & lower gorge says-              484
yo-yo section says--                        1070

Anyone know why this is?  Is there a split in the river above the gorge I don't know about that carries about 600 CFS?

Thanks for helping out an ignorant fella:)
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  Quote James Replybullet Posted: 03 Jan 2013 at 10:45am
Use whatever gauge you want to use.

The headworks section right now is using the gauge of the outflow from Howard Hanson, that number is skewed because water is diverted out for city water supply. Right now around 600 cfs is diverted.

484 is the gauge at purification plant which is where most people put in for the headworks, technically that is the number that reflects most of the headworks portion although you can get a pass and put in higher where that 1070 number reflects. Not sure if you can run above the diversion though, I doubt it.

The yo yo is the gauge in auburn 1070. From Kanaskat Palmer, to Auburn you have side tribs, and creeks that come in, Icey, Soos, etc.. Those add 586 cfs right now. Just the creek at Paradise that makes that nice little water fall is probably close to 20 -50 cfs more at high times and then you have plenty of other side creeks and streams along the way. Soos Creek and ICy are the biggest though. Soos is below the yoyo stretch but a better indicator then the upper gorge gauge.

Here is a table of data that might help you make more sense of it.

Green/Duwamish River Basin
12105900 GREEN RIVER BELOW HOWARD A HANSON DAM, WA     --- 1,120 6.41  12/03 22:00 PST 
12106700 GREEN RIVER AT PURIFICATION PLANT NEAR PALMER, WA 793 484 5.02  01/03 10:00 PST 
12108500 NEWAUKUM CREEK NEAR BLACK DIAMOND, WA 72.0 23 1.83  10/15 16:00 PDT 
12112600 BIG SOOS CREEK ABOVE HATCHERY NEAR AUBURN, WA 188 210 3.77  01/03 10:15 PST 
12113000 GREEN RIVER NEAR AUBURN, WA 1,370 1,070 54.60  01/03 09:45 PST 
12113344 GREEN RIVER AT 200TH STREET AT KENT, WA     --- 1,190 14.32  01/03 10:00 PST 
12113346 SPRINGBROOK CREEK AT ORILLIA, WA 14.0 5.4 13.94  01/03 09:45 PST 
12113347 MILL CREEK AT EARTHWORKS PARK AT KENT, WA 5.80 2.2 43.00  01/03 09:45 PST 
12113349 MILL CREEK NEAR MOUTH AT ORILLIA, WA 19.0 4.4 15.28  01/03 09:45 PST 
12113350 GREEN RIVER AT TUKWILA, WA     --- -- 7.14  01/03 10:15 PST 



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  Quote jerryclayross Replybullet Posted: 03 Jan 2013 at 10:57am
Awesome!  Thanks James.  So basically, the upper and lower gorge numbers are most useful for the headworks, and gorge sections?

Thanks for shredding some light on this.
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  Quote jalmquist Replybullet Posted: 03 Jan 2013 at 12:36pm
Also worth keeping an eye on the dates of the listed gauge readings... 
Note that the 1120cfs you're seeing as the reading from below HHD is not current, and is therefore pretty useless info (unless you're interested in what was being released from HHD back on December 3rd, 2012...)  I've always found the Purification Plant reading the best indicator for gorge and yo yo levels, as that gauge is below the Tacoma diversion and above those creeks that James mentions (of which both Newaukum and Soos are pretty sizable - especially during periods of good rain).  And the Auburn gauge is below those creeks...     

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  Quote Mark47n Replybullet Posted: 06 Jan 2013 at 3:13pm
I usually find the Purification gauge to be the most reliable for the Headworks section.  Just my $.02.
You mean I'm supposed to wear something UNDER my spray skirt? Where's the fun in that?
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  Quote Mr.Grinch Replybullet Posted: 06 Jan 2013 at 10:19pm
Wouldn't the purification chart be the best starting point to gauge the gorge at all? If the biggest (metered) inflows are below the Yo-Yo, would it not be safe to make a few educated guesses based on the Auburn minus creek inflow in comparison to post Tacoma withdrawal? Overall, it will only increase in flow as one progresses down the gorge, as is the nature of things. Is my reasoning correct?
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