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James
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Topic: Hugo: Ban or not ? Posted: 17 Jan 2008 at 11:29pm |
I could care less but let the majority rule....
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RemAcct2
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Posted: 17 Jan 2008 at 11:33pm |
What about...permanently change his/her avatar to something really embarrassing as a third option?
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Tobin
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Posted: 18 Jan 2008 at 12:04am |
Not to be a Devils Advocate, however?
Freedom of Speach? Heard of it?
I, in my heart of hearts believe in this community, and I sincerly doubt one person, or a hundred have the power to disrupt it! If they do, well it's not as strong as we thought.
I have seen many peeps respond, and even praise Hugo for his comments. ( James included) I told him he sucks! Now what?
Will I be banned, or subject to a vote if i piss someone off? I realize that the specifics are different, since I am known, and know many peeps here, I don't hide my identity, and only on occasion post derogitory remarks about others. But will I be put to a poll?
I have no idea who Hugo is, or I may. Who knows.
But I believe that his greatest offence, or ours, is his ability to divide this community.
Come On, I know my freakin shoulder hurts, James is a wounded duck, it's cold and even though the snow pack is huge, we got no water? Can't we push some kayak porn in the ol' DVD and focus on what we all care about?
Think of the "epic" run off this spring, Stevens is at 175% of normal pack.
**Stepping off my soap box**
Good Day to You!!
PS. I vote to not vote. Its a decision, but a nonspecific one.
Edited by newtobin - 18 Jan 2008 at 12:06am
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hugo
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Posted: 18 Jan 2008 at 12:29am |
Shit, don't ban me, please guys...
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suck it
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jojo
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Posted: 18 Jan 2008 at 12:51am |
I don't think its worth banning him. I actually find him funny. That and I love looking at that sandwich. I keep dreaming I will walk into some pizza place or sub shop and see one.
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fiddleyak
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Posted: 18 Jan 2008 at 12:56am |
I don't think he's that disruptive. As long as he kayaks, I don't really care what he has to say. The only reason I really use to the internet for kayaking is to talk and share ideas about boating when I can't actually be doing it. I don't think anyone should be censored against what they want to say, as long as it's kayaking related, and the only real world result of Hugo's actions is that if I ever know who he is, that would affect how I treat him on the river, and if I would actually go kayaking with him.
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water wacko
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Posted: 18 Jan 2008 at 5:25am |
I vote for full disclosure.
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"Don't ask yourself what the world needs. Ask yourself what makes you come alive, and go do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive." ~Howard Thurman
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James
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Posted: 18 Jan 2008 at 6:58am |
I am totally 100% with Tobin... I don't think he even makes a dent in our community.
And if he does the dent adds personality like seam rust on my vanagon. I think your safe hugo... but a few more days will show for sure!!!
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huckin harms
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Posted: 18 Jan 2008 at 7:06am |
Hugo safe? Ha, ha, ha, ha... that's funny! Hugo, don't let James kid ya. Safe from expulsion maybe, but the bounty is now a sixer of micro's.
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dave
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Posted: 18 Jan 2008 at 8:44am |
Let Hugo live!!! I don't like banning.
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justin
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Posted: 18 Jan 2008 at 8:51am |
I don't think anyone should be banned for what they say, I think people should be banned for messing with river warnings etc. My safety etc. is not affected by malicious opinions, but it is from malicious techno-tampering.
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Hisdudeness
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Posted: 18 Jan 2008 at 10:02am |
i think newtobin makes a great point. furthermore, i think the real problem is that of those who participate in the feeding frenzy to the point where banning freedom of speech or those who exercise that right is even considered.
don't let it rent space in yo' heads, dudes. besides... chicks don't like whiners.
Originally posted by newtobinNot to be a Devils Advocate, however?
Freedom of Speach? Heard of it?
I, in my heart of hearts believe in this community, and I sincerly doubt one person, or a hundred have the power to disrupt it! If they do, well it's not as strong as we thought.
I have seen many peeps respond, and even praise Hugo for his comments. ( James included) I told him he sucks! Now what?
Will I be banned, or subject to a vote if i piss someone off? I realize that the specifics are different, since I am known, and know many peeps here, I don't hide my identity, and only on occasion post derogitory remarks about others. But will I be put to a poll?
I have no idea who Hugo is, or I may. Who knows.
But I believe that his greatest offence, or ours, is his ability to divide this community.
Come On, I know my freakin shoulder hurts, James is a wounded duck, it's cold and even though the snow pack is huge, we got no water? Can't we push some kayak porn in the ol' DVD and focus on what we all care about?
Think of the "epic" run off this spring, Stevens is at 175% of normal pack.
**Stepping off my soap box**
Good Day to You!!
PS. I vote to not vote. Its a decision, but a nonspecific one.
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Willy
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Posted: 18 Jan 2008 at 10:19am |
Good line, dudeness. I gotta keep that one. Hey good to meet you last night.
About Hugo... that's a sandwich? All this time glancing at it, I thought it was a shark. Subliminally, what does that say about me? Holy crap, don't ban me!
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RemAcct2
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Posted: 18 Jan 2008 at 10:38am |
I am just waiting for someone to register 14 anonymous names to vote...
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septimus prime
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Posted: 18 Jan 2008 at 10:43am |
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RemAcct2
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Posted: 18 Jan 2008 at 10:50am |
I am not going to do it! I think everyone can agree I cause enough trouble without adding fuel to this fire. I guess by even suggesting it I added fuel to the fire, but I thought it was an amusing suggestion.
I really agree with Justin, though. Messing with river warnings is a legitimate reason for expulsion...
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septimus prime
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Posted: 18 Jan 2008 at 11:10am |
I was referring to reality. Earn your pay check and stuff like that...nevermind
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Fish
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Posted: 18 Jan 2008 at 11:12am |
My 2 cents... Banning should be reserved for those who violate basic moral standards, ie deleting river warnings, sleeping with others wives then posting the video... You know, serious offenses. LOL. Giving someone shit for being a republican, making fun of one another and calling people out on BS, need not apply. I find his posts to be truthfull as he sees it, most likely he uses it as an outlet for fear of being judged for what he really thinks. Do i agree with him, not always... do believe he goes too far sometimes? yes. But I also believe stirring of the pot is healthy, it keeps people real, it demands rebuttal, and ignites discussion. Flame the fires, just stay away from the married women
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tradguy2
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Posted: 18 Jan 2008 at 11:14am |
Long live Mr. Chavez, the world would be boring without at least a couple screwballs
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... preparing for a river beating!
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hugo
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Posted: 18 Jan 2008 at 11:22am |
Just to make sure that it does not go down that road, it is not Hugo the great that is messing with the river warnings. After all, Hugo really loves safety...
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rockarolla
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Posted: 18 Jan 2008 at 11:44am |
Hey Hugo if I vote to keep you on can I hump the bliss stick girl too.
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Dave Moroles. 253 241 8550.
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slickhorn
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Posted: 18 Jan 2008 at 11:45am |
Originally posted by Fish
My 2 cents...
Banning should be reserved for those who violate basic moral standards, ie deleting river warnings, sleeping with others wives then posting the video... You know, serious offenses. LOL. What if we don't post the video? Who the heck cares? If hugo wants to be a jackass, then we get to exercise our fundamental right to ignore tools. Trolls only get play if idiots can't skip over the inflammatory posts. If you're going to ban someone, ban the people who can't leave the troll alone. A troll post is a single post. And trolls can't handle being ignored. I haven't read a single hugo post that added anything to this forum. At the same time, I haven't been at all bothered that he posts. I'm sure some poeple feel that way about my posts lol Move along.
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James
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Posted: 18 Jan 2008 at 11:46am |
You know what Hugo.... you are a freakin nusance.... Everyone cry's and whines when you post... and then everyone cry's and whines when you can't.... I guess this is your carte blanche to keep at it... Enjoy you little bastard... Oh and by the way I don't want to get anymore PM's or Phone calls about the Hugonater... You all wrote the cheque ... so let him cash it...
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slickhorn
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Posted: 18 Jan 2008 at 11:52am |
Originally posted by James
Oh and by the way I don't want to get anymore PM's or Phone calls about the Hugonater...
If I were moderator, I would BAN the people calling an admin to bitch about posts. LAME!!!! Live and let live people, damn, just ignore the stupid posts. It's like this: You're in the eddy above a huge horizon line. You can see the top 10 feet of a 200 year old Cedar tree growing up from below the drop. It sounds like a wind tunnel, or Sea-Tac's tarmac. Fish looks over and says "I've never been here before, but it sounds like left angle is good on this one." What do you do? YOU IGNORE IT and scout. ( sorry bud, had to get one in lol )
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Willy
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Posted: 18 Jan 2008 at 11:52am |
Fish, since when do you stay away from married women?
I'm with Brian on this one. All this panty-bunching over a yakkoff like hugo means we all must need something better to do.
Get to work, Leif.
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