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Topic: NRS?
Posted By: ashleygoesdisco
Subject: NRS?
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2007 at 10:54am
Drytops? Anyone have one? Know anything? Do they hold up? 

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Ashley Duffus
Well behaved women rarely make history.
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Posted By: Yotes
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2007 at 11:08am
Mine held up for about three years, this past season pretty much tore it up, though. Now it's more of a splash top.


Posted By: tradguy2
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2007 at 11:09am
I've had one for 6 months now and it's holding up well. 

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Posted By: ashleygoesdisco
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2007 at 11:14am
Gracias!

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Ashley Duffus
Well behaved women rarely make history.
www.naiyadays.blogspot.com


Posted By: bronkrdr
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2007 at 11:31am
The one I have is more like a semi-dry top, but it still works great and its been handling the abuse.

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Posted By: franzhorner
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2007 at 12:33pm
I have a pretty old NRS drytop that i got back in 2000.  It is not breatHable. I haven't worn it much lately but its held up pretty well to my abusive tendancies towards gear.  gaskets are the onLy thing to have worn out.  my good buddy always gets nrs drysuits and the newer versions do seem pretty nice....
horner


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Posted By: ashleygoesdisco
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2007 at 1:03pm
breathable?

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Ashley Duffus
Well behaved women rarely make history.
www.naiyadays.blogspot.com


Posted By: Otter Boy
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2007 at 1:22pm
Breathable = Gortex (or similar) vs. Nylon (or similar). I.e. whether it lets wator vapor out when you sweat and keeps you dry(er).


Posted By: ashleygoesdisco
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2007 at 1:24pm
I knew that. I was trying to figure out what Horner meant. =)

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Ashley Duffus
Well behaved women rarely make history.
www.naiyadays.blogspot.com


Posted By: Otter Boy
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2007 at 1:38pm

haha, too funny.I guess I should have figured you knew that, but I don't even catch typos online anymore and just read over them.



Posted By: ashleygoesdisco
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2007 at 1:41pm
I do too. But this time around I can't tell if he means breathable or breakable.... 

I got the fabric down. Gore-Tex= GOOOOD.


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Ashley Duffus
Well behaved women rarely make history.
www.naiyadays.blogspot.com


Posted By: franzhorner
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2007 at 3:15pm
i meant breathable!  i think nrs's breathable material is called triton...one other note is that i'm not a hardshell boater so i can't say anything about how the skirt tunnel worked.  i used to use it in conjunction with some kokatat drypants.  i would stay dry until i submerged.  ahh the good old days of freezing my ass off in duckie and raft!  also my drytop is an old model and i'm sure they have changed over the years...
pardon my mispellings!!!


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Posted By: ashleygoesdisco
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2007 at 3:40pm
Its all good, Horner!

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Ashley Duffus
Well behaved women rarely make history.
www.naiyadays.blogspot.com


Posted By: H2Ohta
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2007 at 7:26am
Yo Ashley, the NRS Drytops are great tops but there are better tops out there. There are just few companies that will stand behind their products the way that NRS does. They have one of the best warranties in the business and are super close (Idaho). So if you want to beat hell out of a top and know that you can warranty it for almost any reason, buy NRS. I have a Palm Dry top and Drysuit and have had good luck with Palm, also the Gore Kokotat is hard to beat.
Chris Ohta

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Posted By: windwaves
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2007 at 7:34am
I had the NRS revolution for the last couple years (until I lost it) and really liked it.  It's heavy tough fabric but breathable.  I bought the same drytop again.

If you wear a S or M, it's on sale here: (no affliation)

http://www.outdoorplay.com/store/Product.asp?DID=90&PDID=9&SKU=PDT_NSREV


Posted By: dragorossinw
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2007 at 8:49am
Check out  www.levelsixinc.com  their stuff is sweet and pure quality, not mass produced, so they have a little more control over what leaves the company.

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Posted By: ashleygoesdisco
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2007 at 11:39am
Kokatat and Palm are also on my list. I know its silly, but I'm trying to find the best drytop... in a color I actually like. Level Six maybe, I know Heather Herbeck paddles for them, and she mentioned to me that the gear was awesome.

How about the new Extrasport? 

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Ashley Duffus
Well behaved women rarely make history.
www.naiyadays.blogspot.com


Posted By: H2Ohta
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2007 at 1:37pm
Check out the Level Six stuff carefully. Leavenworth Mtn Sports brought in Level Six and some stuff was great but then there was a drytop that had "vent holes" in the arm pits (actual little holes). Good luck finding a top.

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H2Ohta


Posted By: Tobin
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2007 at 2:33pm
Ash,  Look into the IR tops.  I have bough a couple for people over the past year and a half,  they are top rate.


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Posted By: ashleygoesdisco
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2007 at 4:48pm
Tobin, I've got IR. And I'm not pleased with how it has held up. Plus, they do not make a full-dry top for women, only semi- dry. AND I don't want pink or white... =P

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Ashley Duffus
Well behaved women rarely make history.
www.naiyadays.blogspot.com


Posted By: jondufay
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2007 at 5:08pm
while nrs may be good for things like booties, gloves and straps, i would be careful when buying big dollar stuff from them, they may have good customer service, but that does not change the fact that their stuff is mostly crap.  nrs=not really stitched...food for thought.

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Posted By: Tobin
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2007 at 5:55pm
Ash,
  I was talking about the men's,  I don't know how they are holding up.
My NRS drytop is 2 years old and is ok, i guess. The material is delaminating where my pfd rubs the shoulders and elbows.
  Food for thought
 


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Posted By: jblum
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2007 at 9:32pm
Buy once, buy a kokatat.  There's a reason they are way more expensive...  I feel like I post this every time anyone asks about gear in this forum.  Kokatat lasts longer and is better built than anything else out there.  Even if the NRS warrantee is good, their fabric sucks.  The IR fabric goes to crap after a year or so.  The palm isn't very breathable.  Level Six is attractive (their products are stylish) but not the highest quality (don't buy them cause a pro uses them... remember, pros get what they want for free).

The gore-tex is an investment but you get what you pay for.  I used my gore drysuit more than 300 days before I felt it was too dead to continue with.  I am now into my 2nd season with my Kokatat Rogue Gore drytop, and I paddle it almost every day.  The stuff is expensive, but that's because its well built.  Look at what tops you see on the water that are still being used year after year... you'll see more old style Kokatat tops out there than anything else.  Its not that hard.


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Posted By: ashleygoesdisco
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2007 at 9:36pm
J- I'm getting a Kokatat drysuit, but I don't want to spend the money on another Kokatat drytop when I know I'll either thrash it like I did with my IR, or never wear it because I'm in the drysuit. NRS seems like its a good middle ground, to replace the stupid "semi-dry" that leaks gallons, without spending too much, for those days that a drysuit just cannot be justified.

Thanks for the info though!


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Ashley Duffus
Well behaved women rarely make history.
www.naiyadays.blogspot.com


Posted By: franzhorner
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2007 at 10:06pm
"while nrs may be good for things like booties, gloves and straps, i would be careful when buying big dollar stuff from them, they may have good customer service, but that does not change the fact that their stuff is mostly crap. nrs=not really stitched...food for thought. "


i think nrs's new stuff may deserve another look. they even came out with a new drysuit for kayakers recently. the booties on my friend's nrs drysuit are pretty bomber and its is seeming to hold up to his super abusive tendancies...


An NRS model seems like a good choice for your use Ashley, I bet you wont be in that drytop much though, having a Kokatat drysuit. Thats the way I usually roll too. I probably do about 5% of my trips around here not in my drysuit...

Horner

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Posted By: SupaSta
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2007 at 11:47pm
Originally posted by jblum

...Even if the NRS warrantee is good, their fabric sucks.  The IR fabric goes to crap after a year or so.  The palm isn't very breathable...
 
Dude, that seems kinda harsh.
 
How do you know that  "NRS fabric sucks" and that "IR fabric goes to crap after a year or so" and that "palm isn't very breathable"?  I totally agree with you when you say that Kokatat is the shiznit, but it seems that you're bagging on the other guys without cause. 
 
Do you really have first hand experience with NRS, IR, and Palm's products and you stil manage paddle almost every day in your Kokatat drytop? 
 
Or are you just telling us what you've heard from random people that may or may not know what they're talking about?
 
Dan


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Posted By: ashleygoesdisco
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2007 at 9:08am
It's just an opinion, Dan. I share the same opinion about IR. Man. Everyone is feisty this month!

Horner, that's exactly what I was thinking, I just need to get a drytop as well, since mine doesn't really work anymore....


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Ashley Duffus
Well behaved women rarely make history.
www.naiyadays.blogspot.com


Posted By: arnobarno
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2007 at 10:51am
Well, while we are giving opinions...

I too am a big fan of Kokatat.  When it came time to buy drytops, we purchased the Kokatat Helix drytops (uses Tropos, Kokatat's proprietary GoreTex knock-off instead of GoreTex). 

My thinking was that we have the top-of-the-line Kokatat GMER drysuits that we use most of the year.  The only time we are using the drytops is while traveling or once it has really warmed up here substantially and the drysuits are just too hot (not often).  The nice thing about the Tropos drytop is that it is actually lighter weight (probably less durable as well) as the GoreTex drytop from Kokatat.  I viewed the lighter weight as a benefit, given our usage scenario.  Pricing is about 1/2 price of the same drytop from Kokatat with GoreTex.  So, something else to consider if you hadn't already considered this option.

Obviously, your usage model may be very different than mine.  But for me, getting the top of the line drysuit made lots of sense since 85+% of the time I am paddling, I am using it.  Getting the top of the line drytop and shorty didn't make as much sense to me.

My two cents...  Worth about that!




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Posted By: justin
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2007 at 10:54am

I have an NRS drysuit and it has lasted at least two years, I just wish I would have gotten one with a tunnel.  I like the styling of the IR suits, but style is for girls. jk  I recomend spending the dough for the quality, mostly because I've used my drytop like five or six times since I moved to Washington.  It's a Bomber gear one and has lasted me a long time, too bad they don't make drytops anymore.  Speaking of Feisty I sure like the singer Feist.



Posted By: ashleygoesdisco
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2007 at 11:08am
Me too. The new album is fantastic.

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Ashley Duffus
Well behaved women rarely make history.
www.naiyadays.blogspot.com


Posted By: ashleygoesdisco
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2007 at 5:45pm
Ok. So I just checked out the new IR 2008. Tobin. I think I'm getting IR. You should be happy!

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Ashley Duffus
Well behaved women rarely make history.
www.naiyadays.blogspot.com


Posted By: Chuck e fresh
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2007 at 12:40pm
Top this...

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Posted By: oukr9965
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2007 at 12:51pm
A few people from the 3-cities have the NRS drytops and really seem to like them.  Some have had them for a few years and others only a short period.  Middle ground wise I'd say they're great.
 
However, I have to agree with the Kokatat Gore-Tex opinion for dry tops.  I've had one now for four years and the only thing wrong with it is that the "GORE-TEX" plastic logo has fallen off and only one "E" remains.
 
If you're looking for a good dry-suit that isn't as expensive and comes standard with the booties/relief zipper then I'd go with the Kokatat Tropos drysuit.  The colors are pretty standard, but I've had mine for two years and it's holding up fine.
 
It's not GORE-TEX breathable or as durable (theoretically), but it is breathable and I've abused mine pretty well and it's holding up fine.  Keeps me warm and dry.  Just my $.02.  Have fun procuring.



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