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Topic: What is your favorite river, and why?
Posted By: STLboater
Subject: What is your favorite river, and why?
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2007 at 11:45pm
Oh pro boaters out there, what is your favorite stretch of aerated liquid heaven?

Anything from anywhere, as long as it is non-alcoholic


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Posted By: water wacko
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2007 at 8:07am
The Skykomish is definitely in my top three. It has so many different faces at so many boatable levels with so many lines. You can boat it all year long and it's always fun. Even at the lowest levels there's always some pourover rock to cartwheel or phonics monkey off of. It's always the river that comes to mind. Tumwater is another, though I haven't done it above 2500.

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2007 at 9:16am
Well, pretty much any river with moving water is awesome so it's tough to choose just one. I'll give my top 3:

1) Futaleufu River in Chile: BIG Water, BIG Waves, BIG fun. It also has a variety of difficulty levels that make it fun for everyone! The remoteness and beauty of the area is icing on the cake.

2) Green River Narrows, North Carolina: Talk about awesome, Clas V-V+ water only 45 minutes away from the awesome town of Asheville. It runs 200+ days a year and just has tons of super fun, flowing lines (as well as some big ones).

3) Kaituna River, New Zealand: The Kaituna is only a on mile long stretch. It includes several 10 foot boofs, 1 twenty foot waterfall, and numerous slides all packed into a short, 10 foot wide jungle gorge. Despite all this, better run it in your play-boat because the last rapid includes a truly world class play hole with eddy service!

Brett does make a good point though, the Sky in late summer offers up some great fun (like the little surf spots right below lunch hole or up at power-line or even at aquagasm with a little more water) when everyone else in the country is crying their eyes out about everything being dry. . I would be paddling it right now but I am sitting here sick, at home, unable to kayak and bored out of my mind.... probably the reason for this lengthy reply.

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2007 at 8:17pm
Hugo-

Don't criticize Tumwater. It is a perfectly good run. Also, keep in mind that many developing boaters aspire to do this run. Don't down grade it because you have some kind of chip on your shoulder.

If Brett (or anyone else) likes a run, what business is it of yours to tell them that they are wrong. All rivers are good and fun. They don't have to be the biggest gnar or the best play in order for you to have a rewarding experience.

Hugo, I don't know you in real life, maybe you are a good guy. Hopefully I'll paddle with you someday and find out. From your brief posts here on PP, however, all I have seen you do is put people down. Anything positive to say? Stoke to add?

David

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Posted By: water wacko
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2007 at 8:33am
Is Hugo a troll?   mmmmm, could be

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2007 at 9:29am
Not sure, but I don't know why he deleted that post. Must not have been proud of his behavior.


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Posted By: hugo
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2007 at 9:57am
ahhh!

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Posted By: hugo
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2007 at 10:03am
I did not delete my post, I think that I am being censored!
 
free hugo!
 
 


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Posted By: CRG Productions
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2007 at 9:03am
hmm...It's hard to pick one favorite when there is so much good stuff out there......
 
Local: Little White Salmon, Truss, & Kenobi Gorge
 
Road Trippin: Green River Narrows, Toxaway, & N.F. Payette.
 
PNW Exploratory: Upper Siouxon, Blk Rok Frk South Umpqua, & S.F. Clackamas


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Posted By: oukr9965
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2007 at 9:40am
I'm definately not a gnar boater or anywhere close to pro, but I've got to give a shout out to the Lochsa.  That whole stretch, from top to bottom is just big and fun at multiple levels.  Add some of the creeks and the SF Clearwater (golden canyon/mickey mouse run) just around the way and you'll have a great weekend of boating.
 
Tumwater in the summer is awesome.  Good class IV boating in shorts and a drytop. 
 
Anything on the White Salmon is great all year round.  I ran the Truss for my first time not to long ago and it was awesome, but it'll take a few more times on that run to really enjoy it for everything it has to offer.


Posted By: James
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2007 at 11:01am
At some point you have to make a decision to paddle or to walk. Thats pretty much a black and white choice. So if were all familiar with that style of decision making why can't we do it....all you monkeys are naming lists of rivers as your favorite river... Cmon pick one and then stand for it's name!

I say Icicle Creek. I know it's over used but here is why it continues to be at the top.
#1. You can't find a more road side stretch of III-V+ whitewater in the state.
#2. The scenery is amazing and the river challenges and rewards.
#3. Although there are contenders in BC that I like running more, the weather is not fickle on the good ole Icicle. You can pack counting on a few tanning hours.
#4. I have not found many spots with the combination of such amazing creek style drops & big river play in such close proximity.
#5. You can almost always count on a show when Montana's In Town so if the creek were not amazing enough, you still have more action all night with mark as he proves Little Bavaria's Night Life deserves a spot on the E!'s list of WILD PLACES.

Cmon beat that!

Oh yea its just a an hour and a half away!


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Posted By: CRG Productions
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2007 at 11:31am
Posted by James.
At some point you have to make a decision to paddle or to walk. Thats pretty much a black and white choice. So if were all familiar with that style of decision making why can't we do it....all you monkeys are naming lists of rivers as your favorite river... Cmon pick one and then stand for it's name!
 
Sorry James, I can't pick just one. It's the same as walking a rapid...some days you feel it and some days you don't.  Some days I want road side (Icicle Creek) and some days I want to be as far away as I can get (Salmon River Canyon). Some day I want a mellow run (Farmlands) and some days I feel like going off (Kenobi Gorge). Luckily we have more creeks and rivers to choose from than snowboarders and skiers have resorts to go to! They all have something to offer!


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Posted By: James
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2007 at 12:10pm
Stop that... you have to pick one... I want to be able to just list every one that makes it hard for me to consider too... Ashlu's Box, Robe and Thunder but in the end you have to pick one because of the differences. For example, The box is amazing and I'm a newb just introduced, but the weather and season give Icicle the edge needed to be ranked higher. Robe is amazing and the season rocks, its close and fun, but the lack of diversity and near by runs again give icicle the edge.

Gordie, I think you almost have to re-phrase the question just to get an answer out of these people.....

If the world stopped using gas and no one could travel on anything but horses, llamas and bikes, if you could not go bouncing around the state and region to boat, if you could only do grocery runs, beer runs and shuttle runs, if you had to just pick one spot to call home where would it be?

I would nestle my little homestead into the cleavage of our very own cascades within a few miles access of the Icicle and with a nice sunny plot for growning apples, cherries and all organic boof's. I would of course share all my pickin's with my boating friends, but not to the folks that make fun of how small and wierd my boof's look. Until I get all the kinks worked out I would rather you just make fun of my Apples and Cherries.

J


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Posted By: CRG Productions
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2007 at 12:23pm
Ha...too funny...
O.k. since you put it that way James...
I would have to live on river left, on the upstream side of the bridge, at the Little White put in. Grow my fruits & veggies and set shuttle on my bike every other day. on the in between days I would pick between riding my bike and boat west over to the Wind River or do I go east today and run the Truss....all within bike riding distance. 
 
and the reason why: Your sitting at the put in for one of the best in the country and you have an option on both sides of you within 15 miles away to change things up. And the elevation is just under 1,000ft. not too cold in the winter. and it runs @9 months out of the year.


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Posted By: James
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2007 at 12:34pm
Ok see now that is a worthy selection....

If you were able to hitch a ride on the next wagon train up to my neck of the woods we could rig up a buggy and hit any part of the Icicle, Tumwater, the play zone on the wenatchee and of course we could do over nighters on other locals runs. Honestly these two areas are probably some of the best places in the country to be homesteading boaters...


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Posted By: CRG Productions
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2007 at 12:49pm
Sweet! now we just need someone to settle down on the OP so we could go wagon trail trippin west and get some ocean surfing while we're there. It would be like going to a different country by the time we got back home via wagon trail.....

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Posted By: ashleygoesdisco
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2007 at 1:15pm
Weeeee-snatch-ee. Just because it's so much fun. I have yet to run something that I love as much as it, and playing all day in the sunshine is so much fun.

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Posted By: tradguy2
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2007 at 1:20pm
I love Tumwater.  Pearly white granite boulders, long challenging (but not too challenging) rapids, great scenery and relaible warm weather when it is at flows I'm likely to run it at. 
 


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Posted By: James
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2007 at 1:54pm
How true that would be CRG... That chimes right in with Blum's Thanks Giving thoughts....

A trip to the Ashlu would probably become a once in a lifetime opportunity instead of a summer weekend staple. Planning the wagon train would be more involved than the river run it self....

I suppose this whole argument is whack though. Mainly because if we did away with all these modern day delights we would also have no need for Dams and Diversions... I have a feeling that would open up alot of new options and areas that might flow year round.... Can you say Skagit or Columbia?


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Posted By: CRG Productions
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2007 at 2:43pm
yep, and maybe people would enjoy their stay and scenery a little more...after all the adverage stay at the GC is 20 minutes....most of that is in car time.....
 
Columbia with no dams....hmm....Zambezi.....


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2007 at 2:49pm
Haha... James, you have turned a simple contemplation of rivers into an examination of dystopian kayaking.

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Posted By: erikSANDSTROM
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2007 at 3:41pm
Hugo got censored? Must have been purdy bad stuff....

MF Salmon is my fav. Crappy river, but good times!

Everyone knows what mmy other favorite is.

Now, my favorite local ski run has to be the International/ Bluffs/ Elevator Combo, BOO-YA!

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Posted By: huckin harms
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2007 at 8:16pm
Whoa there Hugo...
sounds like a conspiracy to silence the minority.  Sorry to see that your on the receiving end.  


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Posted By: hugo
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2007 at 9:30am
allrighty, I did not know that kayakers gave up thier first ammendment right...but I will post again...if I get censored again, then I will post again, and again, and again.  I like to exercise my rights, even if I get censored, just like I like to practice my boof, even if it means that I will miss out on a flatwater cartwheeling practice.
 
Tumwater is weak shit!  sorry Trad and flatwater wacko...
 
 
 
 


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Posted By: PowWrangler
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2007 at 9:46am
Hugo is just looking for some internet attention......just don't feed the trolls and they usually end up feeling stupid for what they said the next day anyway.
 
Censorship in most circumstances is lame though.


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Posted By: James
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2007 at 10:35am
I will make a quick post here because this is where it went down. This is in regards to censorship, sorry for the dry nature.

The post Hugo made was removed by a member who no longer has the ability to remove posts. I have instructed all our moderator's many times as is my practice also that posts will never be deleted. If something is flagrantly out of whack, the whole thread gets closed and moved out, as we have done before. It gets saved and if there is ever controversy over the issue it can be raised again by the community for discussion if that is truly what the community thinks is best. No one single person gets there posts taken down though. The thread as a whole is hidden or left up, period.

If folks think a thread should be hidden they just PM a moderator, click the Report Button or complain openly. We have a moved out Forum and plenty of Threads in it like the Orion Thread and others.

Back to the real topic here because it is so important. The Favorite River Pick, not favorites.

Tumwater - I agree is not a favorite of my own but I can see how it would be to some. I will say that it is a serious reason that the Icicle is capable of drawing such crowds... There are two runs of very different nature right next too each other and that is appealing to me at least.... add the wenatchee and you have almost every type of water for boating there is .... just missing the waterfalls... and I agree that is important...

Let me guess hugo, your favorite river is the Stikine or Tsangpo  and anyone who does not agree is a complete pussy, except for people that favor the Homathko ... they are just wussies not full blown pussies right!!!

Gimme a break dude this is "whats your favorite river" not "what seperates the pro's from the weekend warrior's..." Everyone can have their own favorite...




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Posted By: Tobin
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2007 at 11:01am
Lets see if I can chime in here without being called a pussy, or having the river called weak.
 
   My all time favorite (anywhere) is the SF Patette- The Canyon section is so freaking beautiful, mix that with fairly continous class IV rapids. Oh and did  Imention the hot springs?   The 5-6 miles before hte confluence with the MF is the Staircase run, its another gem. 5-6 drops well into Idaho class IV and allot of treats in between.
  Then there is the whole Lochsa, it was my first Idaho river and boy did it open my eyes to big pushy water!
  
  It is hard to name off one local river as my all time fav (we got allot to choose from):
 Its gotta be the Sky, how could it not be? If you don't list it and then turn around and run it 50 times a year, it kinda makes you full of shyt. She has wild and scenic designation, some good rapids, and changes dramatically based on flows.
   Just the 2 cents of a weak suck, pussy class IV guy.
 


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Posted By: hugo
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2007 at 11:05am
okay, you are right, if (for some odd ass reason, such as you like a run that is 2 hours away from most of the peope in the state, has a big ass lake in the middle of it-so you cannot really do laps on it, and has only three rapids) is your favorite, so be it.    I guess that having you all out there on tumwater in the dog days of summer will reduce the chance of you boofing on me while I am getting trashed in the hole on a bc classic.
 
hu to the go


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Posted By: huckin harms
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2007 at 11:43am

Alright hu to the go,

keep the trash talking up, cause in the deep inner place a silent entity is listening and watching.  nothing is hidden.  and then one day there you will be surfing that spot, cartwheeling like a rag doll, wishing you could take back all the ego boosting and bashing.  that day is judgement day on the river and comes regardless of who you be.  just know it waits in silence, listening.

I will be the first to admit that the stupid piece of flat water called Lake Josephine should not be there.  But it is... along with some very classic bigwater giants.     There is a big difference b/w what some call fun on tum and others think of when you talk bout THE TUMWATER.  It's the mega shiaz when it goes big.  AND requires cahones, luck and a bombproof roll, to sit at the table and eat it with that amazing piece of whitewater.  In fact, that frigging lake is a good place to settle thy thoughts and calm the nerves as one tries not to contemplate the consequences of screwing yourself in one of the biggest single rapids in the state at 13k (which happens to be a fairly regular occurrence every single spring).  Maybe you could check this next year n then talk that shiaz.  I will hold the camera. 

 I should note that it isn't my fav though...



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Posted By: hardboof
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2007 at 11:46am

I like robe canyon and earnies canyon as local options. I think tumwater is fun at higher levels - and to correct Hugo, there are 4 rapids on tumwater, unless you are too much of a pussy to run exit drop. 

Hard boof boofs hard biatches.


Posted By: hugo
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2007 at 1:00pm
MR HUCKIN...AND HARDBOOF, YOU 2 ARE RIGHTO...AT HIGHER FLOWS, TUMH20 IS SOME GOOD STUFF, ZAMBIEZE STYLE SHIZ , AND THOSE BIG BALLERS JAKE, ROB AND COMPANY PROVED THAT THIS SPRING.  THOSE NUTS ARE SO BIG THEY COULD BE USED AS A JACKSON SYTLE OVERTHRUSTER.  BUT AT THE LOW END (WHICH MOST IN HERE ARE TALKING ABOUT, I STAND BY MY ORIGINAL WORDS).  AND FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN, LOTS OF FOLKS DO NOT RUN EXIT, SO THEY SHOULD NOT COUNT IT.  I DO NOT RUN LANDSLIDE ON ROBE, SO I DO NOT COUNT IT AS ONE OF THE FEATURES THAT MAKES ROBE SO HOT AND SPICY.


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2007 at 1:08pm
To the esteemed Mr. Hugo-

This thread is about what peoples' favorite river is. No one asked you why you think their favorite rivers suck.

Take a hike.

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Posted By: James
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2007 at 1:22pm
Here here... I was just about to say the same thing... like what if your favorite river is the Sky and you always portage BD. There is nothing wrong with that... to each his own... does portaging mean that can't be that persons favorite anymore.

Shiazzz.... You wanna call out a faker, call me out cuz thunder is on my list pretty high soley for the fact that it was a great feeling of exploration and the memories have made it a special place. Does that mean that some pro should call me out and say dude... thats not a hard run... your a wuss for picking that as your favorite.... maybe...

But if Schertzl or Dufay heard you they might disagree... a run can be special for more than the reason of difficulty. The Cedar will always be special to me, it was the first river I navigated down in an aluminum canoe as a kid, its even one of my favorites.


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Posted By: CRG Productions
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2007 at 1:41pm


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Posted By: hugo
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2007 at 2:10pm
Originally posted by hugo

AND FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN, LOTS OF FOLKS DO NOT RUN EXIT, SO THEY SHOULD NOT COUNT IT.  I DO NOT RUN LANDSLIDE ON ROBE, SO I DO NOT COUNT IT AS ONE OF THE FEATURES THAT MAKES ROBE SO HOT AND SPICY.
 
Allow me to explain my meaning behind this...it does not mean that you cannot count it as your favorite river, it means that you cannot count it as part of the run that makes it so badass...meaning most people would say that bumwater has 3 rapids, not 4...flame on kids, flame on.


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Posted By: hardboof
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2007 at 2:18pm
One day,  mr. clean and a guy - whose name i wont mention - collided in the POW hole.  This guy's paddle broke over his chin and he paddled exit in his POP bare handed. I remeber,  out of concerns for safety and for extra confidence, that this guy was going to follow rob through exit.  Rob agreed to lead the way, but then started to surf some stupid wave at the entrance while this unmentionable person had to scream at rob to get moving as he back hand paddled for dear life. This guy was a bit scared but hand boofed hard thorugh the drop.
 
Hugo - i like your posting style but you need to step up like the big boys if your are going to slam tumwater canyon.
 
Either way I love you and want to boof you hard but gentle if you will have me.
 


Posted By: water wacko
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2007 at 4:49pm
Isn't it obvious all Hugo does is talk? He can't even come up with a favorite river.

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Posted By: hugo
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2007 at 7:39pm

You never asked me what my favorite river is....



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Posted By: PowWrangler
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2007 at 8:02pm
Originally posted by hugo

You never asked me what my favorite river is....




Topic: What is your favorite river, and why?


Posted By: Kyle K
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2007 at 9:26pm
Gotta weigh in here on the opinion bashing. This is supposed to be about each individuals choice of a favorite river. If you don't like it so what. You can have your turn and pick your very own favorite.
 
And what's with this barely hidden poseur crap about being a bad ass kayaker? While I have immense respect for the great boaters I've paddled with or seen in videos, when it comes down to it, kayaking is pretty much a self serving pursuit. Not that it isn't a great one as those things go. I wouldn't trade it for anything.
 
I simply have a hard time hero worshipping someone who paddles the toughest, meanest rapids and thinks they are bad ass while my step son is fighting with the special forces in Iraq. Every day I pray his mother doesn't have to answer that dreaded knock on the door.
 
This isn't about politics either. You all are entitled to you your own opinion of course. His mother and I are vehemently opposed to the war and he has serious doubts about it as well.  But he is a warrior and swore an oath and chose to stay with his buddies when they found out they were going to be deployed a few months after he was scheduled to finish his tenure. His life is on the line 24/7 while we think we're bad ass after we've run Exit or some other such rapid. We're fun hogs but he's a real bad ass.
 
Let's get real homies. Have some fun out there and let others have their own version of fun. Try to get through this life with some grace and walk tall, just don't walk over others in an effort to build yourself up.  


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Posted By: water wacko
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2007 at 11:27pm
Hugo, if you weren't so focused on bashing you would've read the title of the thread, "Topic: What is your favorite river, and why?" and possibly contributed your own. However, you're true intention has clearly come to the surface, as has mine. I cannot stand people who try and drag others down. It's not nice.

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Posted By: PowWrangler
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2007 at 11:52pm
Word up Kyle.


Posted By: Tobin
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 12:14am

 Mamma always said " if you can't say anything nice, don't say nuthin at all"

 IF your purpose is bashing / belittling / making rude remarks, there is a place for that, its called internet chat rooms. Please keep it there! If the best part of your day is making a disparaging remark to others, with no intent on reading what others say? Shut up! and do it elsewhere. I for one am tired of it.

 I care about this community and have seen a trend from several people that mimics the verbal abuse / douche bag nature of most annonomous internet useres.
  Just my 2 cents worth.
 Peace
 


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Posted By: shuttle
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 10:37am

Hugo is my hero... he's a rockstar and getting bigger all the time!

It is Ok to be anonymous (right James), anomalous, and amoral as long as you amuse and ameliorate.

So what is your favorite river Hugo? 


Posted By: James
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 10:52am
Anonimity is not a method that I would like to see practiced around here, especially due to the type of sport were involved in, but it seems that Hugo is a local and part of the community, he just does not feel comfortable sharing his identity in fear that his perspectives will dirty his name. It's unfortunate but true... I wish him the best in his quest to become a big boy! I don't know if Brett and others will let him into the crowd but hey...

Thats why were here! So everyone can have a say


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Posted By: STLboater
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 11:23am
Favorite river:
CC of the lewis.  The rapids offer some challenge, but i feel the risk:reward ratio is hard to beat.  You go through a steep walled canyon, you got some waterfalls, and some tough moves.  My favorite thing about this river is the belittling feeling I get looking down into the swizzle sticks gorge, looking at the huge pool that has been carved out below big kahuna, and my favorite view in the NW, looking back up at triple (double drop) where you can see all the elevation drop.


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 11:54am
Originally posted by Kyle K

Let's get real homies. Have some fun out there and let others have their own version of fun. Try to get through this life with some grace and walk tall, just don't walk over others in an effort to build yourself up.  


Well said Kyle. In my opinion, that is a little taste of what kayaking is really about. Because of all the different difficulty levels of water, all different skill levels can challenge themselves, have fun, and find a community.

Those who pride themselves on being gnarly or amazing paddlers and place themselves above other boaters are missing the point entirely. Yeah, you should be proud of your achievements, sure. What you have to keep in mind is that all achievements are relative. Who is to say that someone who takes a big, gnarly, wilderness first D has achieved anything greater than a class III paddler who has eyed boulder drop for a long time and finally conquers the challenges of a rapid that tests their own skill? Who is to say that EJ winning a world championship has achieved more than someone who just threw their first loop ever? I personally get just as (if not more) excited when someone throws their first loop, runs their first class III (or IV or V) drop, or even nails their first combat roll. Those achievements are amazing and wonderful things to observe.

The point is that the achievements of so called "great boaters" have no more or less weight than the achievements of any other paddlers pushing themselves and enjoying the river.

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Posted By: hugo
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 12:44pm
shutle, thanks for the devotion....nice alliteration by the way.
 
all ya h8ers... 
Sorry to make you all fuss soooo much, if I could just get you all to go up to stevens pass and shed your tears together, we could bring the levels up enough to run the top tye this weekend...
 
h
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g
o
 
which by the way, is one of my favorite runs...if you are curious


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Posted By: hardboof
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 12:51pm

I feel that some folks out here need a sense of humor. But please - keep taking sir hugo seriously because its makes for some very amusing threads.

Hugo - my offer to boof still stands.


Posted By: hugo
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 12:54pm
could we boof each other simultaneously...?

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Posted By: Fish
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 12:55pm
Favorite River - Little White Salmon  aka.  The Church , aka.  L-Dub, 

Try  and  find a more badass creek with everything in it,  from waterfalls,  ledges,  boulder gardens,   to bongs under the put in bridge!!!     

Didnt think so...







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Posted By: CRG Productions
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 1:00pm
Good one!

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Posted By: ashleygoesdisco
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 1:02pm
Bah. But you're a CAT boater when you run the NF.

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Posted By: Fish
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 1:14pm
Correction Ash,

I'm a kayaker who happens to be an oarsman as well.  

Yes, i ran the NF Payette in a catboat... but because i chose a different craft, does that not mean that it cannot be my favorite river???

I also IK, bodyboard, hardshell,  paddle guide, catboat, and R2.

Should i be excluded because of the craft i take? 




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Posted By: Jediintraining
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 1:16pm
Creature Craft?

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Posted By: ashleygoesdisco
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 1:20pm
There is no need for correction. I'm just being ornery. =) I IK and raft too....


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Posted By: PowWrangler
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 1:28pm
Originally posted by Jediintraining

Creature Craft?
 
Ha, Creature Crafts.   What a worthless excuse for a boat those things are. 
 
Nothing quite as funny as seeing CC'ers towing some tubers through the flat water before Gore Canyon and watching them both get trashed once they reached the rapids.  Good times.


Posted By: Tobin
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 1:31pm
Originally posted by ashleygoesdisco

There is no need for correction. I'm just being ornery. =) I IK and raft too....
  Ash, are you implying that you kayak in addition to IK and raft?  Huh 


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Posted By: ashleygoesdisco
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 1:33pm



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Posted By: Tobin
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 1:36pm
Guess I was being ornery too 

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Posted By: ashleygoesdisco
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 1:36pm
You should be nice. I still have those pants.

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Posted By: STLboater
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 3:30pm
i wouldn't want those pants back after freeball the samuri used them.

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Posted By: Tobin
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 3:43pm

 When you washed then Ash, did you use liberal amounts of detergent (preferably corrosive) and HOT water?



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Posted By: hugo
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 3:51pm
cut this shit out, this thread is about me pissing people off, not you guys talking about some dude's stank balls...

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Posted By: Tobin
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 3:53pm
  I am pretty sure I would rather talk about Mikes stank balls.

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Posted By: jojo
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 6:33pm
My true love happens to be my first, the Lochsa River.  Cold clear water flowing out of wild idaho, no houses, no gas stations, big waves, and lots of sections to run.  The scene on the Lochsa over Memorial Day Weekend is something every boater should be a part of at least once.  Kayakers, cat boaters, rafts, commercial rafts, you name it everyone is out there having the time of their life.  Even better check out the Lochsa Rendezvous the first week of May at the Lochsa Lodge.  Boaters everywhere, bands, debauchery, old friends.  I'll be going back a bunch and can take three with me so anyones invited next may.  Smiling just thinking about it. 


Posted By: Tobin
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 6:38pm
Lochsa Lodge?  Is that the name of the place?  Just curious

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Posted By: jojo
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 6:46pm
Lochsa Lodge is the place up river at mile marker 162.  Three rivers is the place down river near the confluence of the Selway and Lochsa.  Both are great places with their own special attributes but I am partial to the Lodge.  The Lodge is usually colder being a couple thousand feet higher in elevation but has a more intimate feel to it more rustic.  More lawless.  You have a little farther ride to the lower stretches but you are closer to the white pine stretch.  The Lodge is a great place to spend a night if you are rolling over from missoula then plan on camping down river.


Posted By: Tobin
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 7:03pm

That is a ways up, but it sounds great.   I would check it out, but my cousin Co-owns Three Rivers.  I will be there the weekend after Memorial Madness!!

  Last year we met a great guy from Missoula that was down for hte day, he helped us with lines on the White Pine Section!  It is a great scene! and the river rocks!!!



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Posted By: shuttle
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 7:16pm
Shuttle was hi-jacked


Posted By: jojo
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 7:20pm
I probably know your cousin.  I have guided on the Lochsa for eleven years.  Do you remember the guy from Missoula that floated White Pine with you?  Just curious.  I will be there the week after also, we will have to meet up and float.  That weekend is one of my favorite because the river is not quite as busy.  Most people are headed to river trips or have spent there get away days by then. 


Posted By: hugo
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 7:42pm

I am sorry to hear that shuttle.  Hopefully you will be re-establish proper command of the situation.  I find that you are one of the few folks here that I can relate to...you know, a true intellect! 

I also think that Daryl and Hardboof are pretty jazzy as well.  I can tell that the river has made the few of you tough...tough as nails.



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Posted By: Tobin
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2007 at 8:01pm
jojo: Diane is my cousin, she married Marty. I am sure you know them! Its great to meet you.
  It would be great to hook up for next year, doing read and run last year was sporty at best! 
  Shoot me an email. tjdailey@hotmail.com


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Posted By: RemAcct3
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2007 at 9:51am
I don't jazz, I rock...

I don't know how to boof but I will gladly poke into your skirts if you turn your back to me and there is no room in your hole...

I can't hand paddle but I can doggy paddle
I can't style a run but I can run things doggy style
I'm not tough as nails but for me getting nailed is tough

Someday I am going to learn all this paddling stuff and people are going to want my autograph, at that time I will stop yapping off and everyone will say to each other... wow that guy is rad .. wow that guy is amazing and he doesn't even act like it...

Until then I figure people are going to know I suck and recognize it ... so I will get my loud mouthin in while people don't pay me any mind.

My favorite run is peshastin creek. Dropin into fresh squeezed with must make moves is where its all at!
Dout


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Posted By: STLboater
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2007 at 10:03am

"Someday I am going to learn all this paddling stuff and people are going to want my autograph"
haha jazzy.  When i was up on the ottawa Eli Speigle was trying to convince me to ask nick troutman for his autograph, just to bother him.  I guess only the little kids who were beginning to kayak asked him.  I think once you get to the top, you realize that autograph requests are few and few between.


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Posted By: James
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2007 at 10:08am
I don't know about that... I have seen footage of Tao signing autographs with crowds around him and stuff... I would say it might depend on the location and timing... Events and Comps are probably where it happens most. I would guess its more like can I get a picture with you kind of thing too... I want a photo with Tao... I would even kneel down so he could look taller!

J


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Posted By: CRG Productions
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2007 at 10:12am


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Posted By: ashleygoesdisco
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2007 at 12:13pm
I've met Tao. No thanks.

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Posted By: cronar
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2007 at 12:23pm
Best Tao line heard and seen on the Wenatchee at 15k

Tao:  "Ladies the river is pretty big and scary out there right now."

One of the ladies I'm boating with that day:  "You want us to lead you down, Tao?"

All in all though he's a decent person once you get around the personna.


Posted By: water wacko
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2007 at 6:38pm
Wish i coulda been there for that! that's funny.

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Posted By: ashleygoesdisco
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2007 at 11:34pm
Who happened to say that?

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Posted By: jP
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2009 at 3:54pm
Yeah it's a cold thread. let me warm it up. What can I say it's a good topic. I like the Dystopian premise, for starters.
 
Like CRG, I definitely agree: Gotta be the L Dub for me. It would be a steep bike shuttle, but consider the health benifits. Living at the put-in would be sweet. Here's why it is superior to most of the other picks offered:
 
1. IMO- one of the finest, funnest creeks of all time.
2. I don't think I could ever outgrow it. The Wenatchee is fun, but it's season is a fraction as long, and even in peak season, It would get boring. Same with Tumwater, although at least you get some big water potential to sh*t your drysuit. It's hard to imagine burning out on the L Dub.
3. Long Season, nearly year round.
4. variety. it has boulder gardens, tons of boofs, plenty of waterfalls, and Spirit Falls. Say no more.
5. it's about as beautiful as any river I've paddled, which is quite a few.
6. No road alongside it, which increases any river's appeal, for me.
7.Like Big water? well personally I'm still too scared to get on the LW above 3.5' I imagine if it's all I paddled I'd eventually be inching the levels upward until I hit my limit.
8.The shuttle is short.
9.Like CRG said, there are plenty of other runs nearby.


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Posted By: RemAcct2
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2009 at 4:12pm
Any hugo-free river is great!

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Posted By: franzhorner
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2009 at 4:20pm
I suggest everyone who thinks they deserve to have an opinion on Tao should read his book that just came out, Going Vertical.  After reading his book and running every drop he has, than I think you can judge the man. 

I believe Tao has always got a bad rap from the people who should be cheering him on the most...kayakers!!!

In my brief meetings with him I have found him to be very respectful, insightful, and a genuinely considerate person....


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Posted By: hugo
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2009 at 5:49pm

SHIt LeAF,

  Aren't you the one that always cries about how exclusive paddling groups are (just because they don't want to paddle with you).  Now here you are getting all exclusive and shit. Shit man, all i want to do is paddle with you.  You Are my hero- MAN.  Now that the wack is gone, it is my most humble opinion that you are the best boater in the Norf West. 
 
soon all the chics will want you.  hopefully you will be prepared to give them all a heaping laddle of leaf sauce.
 
h to the hizzo.


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Posted By: dragorossinw
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2009 at 6:13pm
EFL - So many options, and its a stones throw from the farm.
 
Spokane - Hidden jems of play almost year round
 
or
 
Salmon in ID, Riggins Stretch - Amazing for all classes of boaters and options, not to mention great weather, hot springs, clasic side creeks fly fishing, white sandy beaches.  Main, Middle Fork, and Lower offer amazing multi day! 


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Posted By: KBfree
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2009 at 11:07pm
Opal Creek on the Little N Santiam....

Its a rare gem thats not close, not very accessible, and has a short 1+ mile hike in.  Great class IV with the most crystal clear waters. 

Great reward for those willing to find it. 

I hear the road has snow but is accessible....  maybe a Breitenbush / Opal cr weekend in April.


Posted By: RemAcct2
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2009 at 11:12pm
I'd like to do an Opal/Breitenbush weekend...

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Posted By: justin
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2009 at 8:13am
Chili Canyon, nuff said.


Posted By: Liz
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2009 at 9:47am
This is like trying to pick a favorite color.
 
Favorites vary based on need, mood, season, combination. 
 
Any one by itself gets dull without contrast. 
 
Taste the rainbow...


Posted By: dragorossinw
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2009 at 11:06am
What if your color blind?

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Posted By: jP
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2009 at 7:09pm
Originally posted by -Liz

This is like trying to pick a favorite color.
 
Favorites vary based on need, mood, season, combination. 
 
Any one by itself gets dull without contrast. 
 
Taste the rainbow...


very well put, Liz!!

well I was afraid I'd come across as a geek, but,, boy am I glad I revived THIS soggy thread!  Nice additions (people's favorites), and while I've been trying to take the high road a little more lately, I'm glad to see the 'ol HUGO sling some sh*t for me.

As far as Tao goes, Hey-- lots of people talk trash about extraordinary individuals for lots of reasons. F*#k 'em!!

Tao has proven himself a very influential figure in the sport of paddling (I WOULD dispute a claim that he is THE most influencial). It's guys like him that help to shape the sport and define where it progresses. My helmet is off to him. He works out (still) and has trained very hard to get to where he has gotten to. And WE ALL HAVE CHARACTER FLAWS. The times I've met him he was a nice guy, even when I sat on his "light layup" Dagger (My brush w/ greatness!)

It's easy to be a piece of plastic driftwood bobbing in the eddy of anonimity. It's NOT easy to be in the limelight in a small sport where everyone is constantly judging you.


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Posted By: 14kayaking2
Date Posted: 07 May 2009 at 6:05pm
Hear hear!!

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