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old single room structure in boulder drop

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Topic: old single room structure in boulder drop

Posted By: jaansdornea
Subject: old single room structure in boulder drop
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2010 at 1:59pm

I would like to clean it up and wondering if anyone is interested in helping. I can go out dawn Thursday morning till about noon and maybe later. Scouted boulder drop but didn't run it, couldn't tell if there were submerged 2X4s or not. Who's interested?

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Posted By: JayB
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2010 at 2:36pm

So, just to be clear - a cabin of some kind was washed into Boulder Drop and is now lodged in there somewhere?

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Posted By: water wacko
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2010 at 2:42pm

from the road you can see part of a wall/floor from an old building, perched on one of the big boulders on the left side of the drop. it's out of the water, but i haven't inspected to see if there is more debris in the water...

Posted By: Jed Hawkes
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2010 at 2:54pm

Thank you for the clarification. I was initially very confused.

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Posted By: GHannam
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2010 at 3:28pm

*HAHA* A "Wizard of Oz" thought just popped into my head-- will we see black and white stripped stocking with red shoes under some of the debris?

Posted By: James
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2010 at 3:45pm

I think a photo is in order. If there were an opportunity to paddle through boulder drop, spin onto the front porch, cartwheel through the living room and boof off the back deck you might have yourself a viral or super epic photo shoot. Just a photo paddling by a submerged cabin would be cool. This is the only thing I can think of close to the idea I am having...

Posted By: jaansdornea
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2010 at 3:57pm

as of yesterday, I didn't see any debris from the structure, stuck below in the lower rapids or picket fence. But, this thing will get ripped apart if it goes down with the next flood, so might as well avoid a strainer b4 it happens in my humble opinion. Sorry for lack of photo, but its pretty big with a long pole sticking out the front.

Posted By: rokmnky
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2010 at 4:03pm

I thought I saw something when I was coming back from stevens the other day but I didnt stop to look.

I'm out of town for the next few weekends but it its still there by mid jan when Im free again ill come out and help clean up. It would be a shame to lose boulder drop to a strainer.

Posted By: jaansdornea
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2010 at 5:08pm

ok, so sounds like there aren't any plans at this time. So, a question for some of the more experienced river rats out there in Index area -- Is it legal to go chainsaw this thing up and haul it up the side of the river? Or am I being an overzealous dude on a mission?

Posted By: huckin harms
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2010 at 7:04am

It's a good idea.... but I'm not to concerned about the debris becoming a strainer or anything like that.

The debris is from a house located in SkyKo1 that lost is it's studio portion. There is more to come from that house as it sits half-way off the bank tetering into the abyss. I would think that to be a much bigger concern.

You could run a chainsaw but without proper authorization ( permits ) I'd think it was probably illegal in someway or other; so IF you do get busy on the mess keep it covert unless you've got clearance. It could be challenging to access.

Take a pic and send it to county. That might get a reaction. OR NOT as county is lame on this sort of thing...

anyways, I wouldn't stress on it to much. It is an eyesore to be sure, but it's only temporary, eh....

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Posted By: jaansdornea
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2010 at 9:18am

Thanks for the information huckin harms -- Do you have a contact for the county to send a picture to?

Posted By: water wacko
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2010 at 9:40am

The main Sky is a pretty wood-free river. The next flood will need to be another 50 or 60k event to get that sucker. At that level most everything is covered up and a big flush. The debris I saw from the road is suspended above the water. I wouldn't worry about it.

Posted By: James
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2010 at 9:59am

I say we run with it. Start bringing in other driftwood piece by piece until we have a full size waterfront cabin. We could keep some snacks in there and maybe even sell concessions during the busy spring and summer months. Could be pretty cool if you ask me. Screw zoning and all that nonsense. We could do it during the night and just call it an act of God.

Posted By: jP
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2010 at 12:15pm

No doubt. Without embarking on an epic oddessy of words, let me sum up my general position:

The River put it there. Leave it.

If it can be appropriated, so be it.

If it is a hazard, Beware

If it's a play feature, take care

Either way do what you want

I don't (really) care

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Posted By: jaansdornea
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2010 at 1:30pm

sounds good -- we'll let the river take care of it. Thanks everyone.

Posted By: Courtney
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2010 at 7:35am

It would be nice though if someone would take a picture of it and post it on PP so we can all see what exactly is going on with it.

Posted By: water wacko
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2010 at 4:58pm

Originally posted by James

I say we run with it. Start bringing in other driftwood piece by piece until we have a full size waterfront cabin. We could keep some snacks in there and maybe even sell concessions during the busy spring and summer months. Could be pretty cool if you ask me. Screw zoning and all that nonsense. We could do it during the night and just call it an act of God.

...and because it's below the high water line... no permits required

Posted By: Wiggins
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2010 at 6:23pm

Someone with a decent background in chemistry, or a lot of empty pop bottles and dry ice could take care of this problem (and the one in the Boulder Garden on CC Stilly)!

Kyle

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Posted By: dave
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2010 at 7:32pm

Maybe we could rent it out as a seasonal rental? Like James said, waterfront property!

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Posted By: GHannam
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2010 at 8:35pm

I'll be on the Sky tomorrow-- I'll take pictures if I can & post them

. Courtney, if you're still planning on a little clean-up, keep me posted. I'm happy to help if I can.

Posted By: Wiggins
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2010 at 4:42am

It is more of a wall and is out of the water.

Kyle

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Posted By: doggievacation
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2010 at 5:53pm

It's more of an eyesore than anything.

One good change in the river is that the log that was jutting out from RR on Garbage is now gone. (At least I "think" that rapid is called Garbage. When I read the PP River Page, it refers to Garbage as containing the "Butter the Biscuit" move. The rapid I always called Garbage is the one above it, the long wave train on river right with a couple of holes in it.)

Anyhow, that log is gone.

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Posted By: huckin harms
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2010 at 3:29pm

just to continue this...

Very good to have that piece of wood gone below the confluence.

The structural wood pasted to the rock is totally accessible and there are some decent pieces you could build a tree house with or maybe a smoothy/espresso stand

Also, there was a minor change in the Aquaqasm rapid where the standing waves are at bottom. Some shifting has helped bring that wave back ... we surfed it at 3k and hopefully it will be in better form with more water 3,500-4k.

And the Needle seems steeper. Not totally positive, but seems different somehow.... Anyways, MErry Christmas everyone!

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Posted By: doggievacation
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2010 at 4:39pm

I definitely agree about the Needle. I dropped in there with not much speed and a little right boat angle (which usually worked well for me in the past) and was forcibly spit out totally vertical. Next time, I thought I might try to hit it more like Ned's; with enough speed and left angle to boof over that gaping maw at the bottom.

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