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Topic: Wild Kayakers
Posted By: dave
Subject: Wild Kayakers
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2009 at 10:13pm
I ran the MM solo today and ran into 4 different groups of kayakers. Some I knew, a lot I didn't. No one posted any trips or discussions and some of the kayakers I talked to didn't know about Professor Paddle. I estimated around 40 kayakers I saw today.

There is a huge underground scene around here, or maybe we are the underground...

Anyway, I went for a dirt bike ride and when I came back there were more kayakers the Arno and Deb group and Deb had COOKIES! Yum yum.

There are more boaters in this area than we know about...a lot more...to bad they all don't hook up with PP.

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Nomad



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Posted By: dave
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2009 at 10:17pm
Im not busting on anybody, I'm just saying that we could grow our community if all those guys that didn't know about PP were somehow informed.

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Nomad


Posted By: RemAcct2
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2009 at 11:11pm
Lots of kayakers like to boat with a small group (think cliques), never venturing out of that group.  I can think of several examples of that, to the point that I see people surfing turkey shoot on the Wenatchee that talk amongst themselves, but won't interact with other boaters.  Frankly, this is less about our sport, and more about the way people conduct themselves in Seattle.  PDX doesn't seem to have this problem.


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Posted By: RemAcct2
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2009 at 11:12pm
By the way, Dave, no one called me today asking to do a MM run, so we can both feel left out together.  No matter, most of the folks you ran into today will never see the gnar, let alone run it...

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Posted By: PowWrangler
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2009 at 11:16pm
Seems like you two always have a chip on your shoulder about "people who don't want to boat with you".  For the sake of this website, get over it.


Posted By: RemAcct2
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2009 at 11:23pm
Dude, get over yourself.


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Posted By: RemAcct2
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2009 at 11:28pm
When's Hugo going to chime in?  Hugo should be right drunk by now and be in prime posting form...  Gimme my daily Hugoism...

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Posted By: hugo
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2009 at 11:47pm
Originally posted by leifkirchoff

Dude, get over yourself.
 
wow, good one leaf. 
 i was on the middle middle today (which contrary to your claim, is running the gnar), and i was glad as a mother fucker that i was able to avoid dave. i saw that shithead out there and it would have ruined my day to have to hear his blabbling.   the two of you ought to form a boating clique of your own, that way, people would not have to make excuses to get out of boating with you two. most would be stoked to be shunned by you.   it would allow you both to save face. 


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suck it


Posted By: RemAcct2
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2009 at 11:51pm
Which Dave do you refer Mr. Hugo?  My comment was directed at the Dave that posts as PowWrangler, who, to be clear, will not boat with me because I didn't vote for Obama.  I am guessing you are a liberal, too, Mr. Hugo.


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Posted By: hugo
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2009 at 11:53pm
parts of me are...
i like powEranger, he does not say such dumb shit, like the other dave.


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suck it


Posted By: RemAcct2
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2009 at 11:54pm
I thought only the Asians, or more specifically Chinese needed to save face?  It is, after all, a concept attributed to south-east Asia.  Last time I checked, I wasn't Chinese.  You'd better not be calling me a communist, hugo!  Them's fightin' words.


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Posted By: hugo
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2009 at 12:01am
 wtf  are you talking about...?

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suck it


Posted By: RemAcct2
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2009 at 12:10am
"Saving Face" is a sociological concept credited to the Chinese culture.  The OED suggests a similar phrase was borrowed from the Chinese starting in 1876.  As to the other statement, the bulk of China, excluding the ROC, became Communist in 1949.  Have I sufficiently explained myself?


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Posted By: hugo
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2009 at 12:25am
what the fuck does any of that have to do with you?

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suck it


Posted By: RemAcct2
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2009 at 12:28am
You suggested Dave and I need to "Save Face".


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Posted By: hugo
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2009 at 12:30am

i was merely offering it to you as a suggestion.  I really don't give a fuck what you do. 



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suck it


Posted By: RemAcct2
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2009 at 12:33am
I suspected as much.


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Posted By: Tobin
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2009 at 8:27am
Confucius Say
"Man who fight with retard Fight an unarmed soldier"

Hugo Wins!

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Sure?


Posted By: dave
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2009 at 8:36am
Originally posted by hugo


 

wow, good one leaf. 

 i was on the middle middle today (which contrary to your claim, is running the gnar), and i was glad as a mother fucker that i was able to avoid dave. i saw that shithead out there and it would have ruined my day to have to hear his blabbling.   the two of you ought to form a boating clique of your own, that way, people would not have to make excuses to get out of boating with you two. most would be stoked to be shunned by you.   it would allow you both to save face. 


You must have been one of those nice people I ran into when I was riding my motorcycle. Everyone was so friendly yesterday, its hard to believe that you were one of them.

If I ever figure out who you are Hugo, I am going to give you a big kiss, cus you are such a funny and friendly guy or gal (I hope).

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Nomad


Posted By: Courtney
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2009 at 8:36am
Ok.  I don't chime in often but something is just really starting to bug me.  This whole running the gnar thing has been brought up a number of times in the past and it's really getting old.  Since we have been on both sides of the table, meaning that we used run some gnar and now we've chilled out, it's easy to see both sides.  We were always proud of ourselves when we ran something challenging but never put others down that chose not to because in no way were they ever inferior to us for not chosing to run the same things we did.  From the word on the street as to why many of these "underground paddlers" aren't on PP, I've been told it's just for this reason.  There are too many paddlers on PP that boast about the gnar they've run and tend to make others feel inferior that choose not to.  No one wants to be friends with people like that.  So there you go.  Stop the attitude and start making friends.  You all know who you are, and if you don't, I'm sorry for you.  If at any time someone were to feel I am boasting about a rapid I've run, I give you permission to slap the fool out of me and let me know it. 


Posted By: dave
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2009 at 8:39am
That's it, Hugo is a woman! I saw her yesterday...that's why you are so hostile, I think I did your mother and you may be my daughter!

Not you Cortney, just saw you simul posted.

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Nomad


Posted By: JoesKayak
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2009 at 8:46am
Gee whiz. I wonder why not everyone wants to be on this board.




Posted By: Confucius
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2009 at 8:56am
What's up with Tobin quoting me? I Confucius would never use the word reta@?. Also Dave, I am dissapointed in your lashing out at poor Hugo. You usually don't make such attacking comments. We were on the MM yesterday, about 5 of us and we didn't use this website because our group just left together from work early at the last minute. No need to post if you already have the most! This website is still a great resource though

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Through words and deeds the superior man moves heaven and earth. Must one not, then, be cautious? "Confucius,500 BC"


Posted By: PowWrangler
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2009 at 8:56am
Leif, I could care less about your political persuasion.  I'm in the center and I don't mind paddling with folks that are to the left or right of me.   Just to clear that up.  


Posted By: water wacko
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2009 at 8:59am
Well said.

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"Don't ask yourself what the world needs. Ask yourself what makes you come alive, and go do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive." ~Howard Thurman


Posted By: Tobin
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2009 at 9:03am
Sorry Confucius!
I didn't mean to put words in your mouth.
For all the PC people - " I Tobin said the word ' retard (aka Leif)'
Not Confucius

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Posted By: James
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2009 at 9:32am
Wow what a crappy thread. If I may here are a few thoughts of my own.

1. Leif you could have seen http://professorpaddle.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8399 - Dave posted his MM trip yesterday if you looked http://professorpaddle.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8402&PID=41638#41638 - not to mention another option too . The whole reason I started this site was so I did not have to make 400 calls to paddle or read through 400 emails. So if you don't get a call maybe you should be pro-active and look for a trip.

2. I ran FITW this week and never posted a trip. Not cause it was hard or gnar etc... for two reasons. 1. I didn't need a shuttle for that run, and 2. I already had friends going and don't care for FITW with a crowd of clowns (im a clown too its the crowd thats a problem).

3. For all you teabags that keep saying why don't people use PP more, don't!!!! it makes people think your a "click" or how ever leif likes to spell it. All you do is complain, whine and make this into some group of selected friends and it never was supposed to be. It was intended to be an outlet , a tool and a means for connecting. If you don't need any of the above then good on ya!!! I hope I get to paddle with you some day and if I don't I hope you know your always welcome in my van for shuttle or on a thread without getting bashed for not being in the "Group" Earlier.

You guys are giving this site a bad name with all your whining and bickering. The sensless posting, the radical comments. I'm all for speaking your mind, but at some point you just don't when you know it will do no benefit for anyone.

To close it up, its not about best, gnar, class, ability, frequency, PP, doo doo, me me, or you you. It was and should always be about paddling. I hope people that have been turned off to this website give anyone that has posted here a second chance, and even perhaps considers making a post, because we seriously need some more boaters to add balance to this one sided bitchOtonomy.

Love you all, but now its back to work.



Posted By: dave
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2009 at 9:36am
Maybe Leif doesn't have internet access?

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Nomad


Posted By: Tobin
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2009 at 10:02am
It is supposed to be about yourself, not what you run, how you do it, but mostly how much 'you' enjoy the experience.
Leif is a target because he is a hypocritical ass that sets himself up to be judged. He enjoys it.
I fling poo here, but anyone that knows me, knows it is with a smile and I only fling it at friends.


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Posted By: RemAcct2
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2009 at 10:36am
That's right Tobin. I just posted here to make PowWrangler cranky and to see what charming tidbit Hugo would come up with. I had appointments on the peninsula yesterday afternoon, and couldn't have boated if I wanted to.

Perhaps I will boat today. FitW, anyone?

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Posted By: dragorossinw
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2009 at 10:44am
HI

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Posted By: Tobin
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2009 at 10:56am
Hola'

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Posted By: Larry
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2009 at 5:57pm
Have a Nice Day!



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