Stevens Saturday
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Topic: Stevens Saturday
Posted By: RemAcct2
Subject: Stevens Saturday
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2007 at 11:11am
I am headed to Stevens Sunday for my inaugural run of the season. Based on forcasts, there should be 6-12" of fresh on Saturday, though anything can happen between now and then.
Anyone want to ride up there in King Chili? I've got lots of room...
- Leif
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Posted By: erikSANDSTROM
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2007 at 2:14pm
STEVENS SUCKS! They have revoked free birthdays! Yesterday was my last trip to that shitty mountain! I know everyone will start comparing which mountain they like best, some will say Stevens is great. Save your breath, that mountain is dead to me.
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Posted By: raindancer
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2007 at 5:21pm
Total Bullshit...... No Birthday Pass!
Its disappointing to see Stevens going this direction. But Im too lazy to always earn my turns so I will still ride there. Plus it's one of the only mountains that you can pull double downs on a regular basis throughout the winter.
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Posted By: erikSANDSTROM
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2007 at 5:36pm
I like the mountain itself.
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Posted By: RemAcct2
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2007 at 5:44pm
The mountain was probably concerned about gett sued by people with June birthdays.
Getting back on point - let me know if you actually want to carpool up to the mountain on Sat.
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Posted By: PowWrangler
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2007 at 8:23pm
You drove all the way up there to ride rain crust? Even for a free pass, that aint worth it. After 50+ inches at Alpy this coming week, Steven's will be the last thought on your mind!
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Posted By: Kiwi
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2007 at 9:48pm
Crystal is too expensive! BAA!
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Posted By: SupaSta
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2007 at 11:20pm
Originally posted by erikSANDSTROM
STEVENS SUCKS! They have revoked free birthdays! Yesterday was my last trip to that shitty mountain! I know everyone will start comparing which mountain they like best, some will say Stevens is great. Save your breath, that mountain is dead to me.
Oh waaa!
Lemme see if I got this straight. You're upset because someone isn't giving you a freebie because it's your birthday. Is that right?
Yeeeaaaahhhhh...ok.
Come to think of it, I didn't get anything for your birthday either! Bastards! 
------------- Life is short, paddle hard!
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Posted By: erikSANDSTROM
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2007 at 5:56am
Deez nuts.
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Posted By: dave
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2007 at 8:33am
Just go snowshoing, then you don't have to pay anybody anything! Except gas.....
------------- Nomad
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Posted By: jojo
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2007 at 9:58am
I skied stevens for the first time ever yesterday and eventhough it was pretty much just groomer skiing the place looks like it has some good terrain. I am looking at my Alpental/Snoqualmie pass collecting dust on my desk so I can't say much about that place. If Stevens gets snow I will go Sunday. Depends on snow.
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Posted By: PowWrangler
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2007 at 10:22am
Jojo. Here's about all you need to know about Snoqualmie. Alpental has fun and steep inbound terrain, but it's limited. The lines can suck at chair 2 at times though. The best part of that place is going out the gates to the side country stuff. Lots of lines....exposed steeps, gullies, chutes, cliffs, roll overs, etc. It can be dangerous so a guide is pretty much mandatory along with beacon, shovel, probe.
Hyak is just open on weekends so it's a great place to hit if it dumped during the week. Shorts laps, but fun terrain.
There's a few decent runs at the rest of the Snoqualmie areas, but overall it can be avoided unless you're a park rat and want to hit the pipe and rails.
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Posted By: jojo
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2007 at 10:28am
Thanks for the info. I am always up for touring so that's exciting. What's Hyak?
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Posted By: RemAcct2
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2007 at 11:39am
I am now considering Sunbday again after reviewing the latest nwac forecast.
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Posted By: PowWrangler
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2007 at 12:24pm
Originally posted by jojo
Thanks for the info. I am always up for touring so that's exciting. What's Hyak?
Hyak is the the eastern most of the Snoqualmie area, the one with the big Oly can.
Not really touring off the gates at Alpental, just a big traverse to get you out there.
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Posted By: RemAcct2
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2007 at 9:45pm
Will be heading through downtown at about 7:30a tomorrow (Sunday) if anyone else needs a ride up to Stevens.
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Posted By: ashleygoesdisco
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2007 at 9:49pm
Originally posted by PowWrangler Alpental has fun and steep inbound terrain, but it's limited. The lines can suck at chair 2 at times though.
What he didn't tell you is there are ONLY two chairs. 
Stevens is better.
------------- Ashley Duffus
Well behaved women rarely make history.
www.naiyadays.blogspot.com
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Posted By: RemAcct2
Date Posted: 15 Dec 2007 at 10:01pm
So, I've actually never been to Alpental, but it has always seemed to me that it is a rather small offering. I do hear there is good backcountry, so if someone wants to show it to me sometime...that might actually get me to go there.
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Posted By: PowWrangler
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2007 at 12:22am
I've only ridden at Steven's once, but got a general sense of the area. It's great for ripping fast cruisers and powder days.
I think preference between the places depends on what you are looking for. Going out the gates at Alpental allows you easy access to some pretty hairball terrain. Definitely a better sense of adventure can be found there. I've only seen a quarter of all the lines and am looking forward to lot's of new ones this season. 
These photos give you a general sense.



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Posted By: jojo
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2007 at 10:22am
Bummed I missed out on Stevens today, I had to work late last night. If you guys go up at all this week let me know.
PowWrangler those are some sweet photos, I can't wait to ski there. That is unbelievable side country.
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Posted By: ashleygoesdisco
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2007 at 4:24pm
Pow is that you?
Joe... Tomorrow?! Hahaha.
------------- Ashley Duffus
Well behaved women rarely make history.
www.naiyadays.blogspot.com
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Posted By: Larry
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2007 at 8:00pm
I'll be at Stevens tomorrow,............And Wendsday,............And Friday,..........And.......We'll see after that. Anyone else wanna go, let me know. (I can't go Tuesday or Thursday. Gotta work sometime)
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Posted By: PowWrangler
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2007 at 8:05pm
None of those are me and they're stolen from the internetz.
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Posted By: RemAcct2
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2007 at 8:11pm
Larry - I can probably go Friday with you. Monday and Wednesday are out. The snow was great today - better than I expected.
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Posted By: Larry
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2007 at 9:02pm
It'll be better tomorrow!!!
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Posted By: ashleygoesdisco
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2007 at 10:49pm
Larry, I'll be up there tomorrow with a bunch of friends.
------------- Ashley Duffus
Well behaved women rarely make history.
www.naiyadays.blogspot.com
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Posted By: huckin harms
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2007 at 7:38am
blah blah blah
this is a whitewater kayaking forum... not nwskiing.com
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Posted By: Larry
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2007 at 3:06pm
Gee Mike, Sorrreeeee. But I believe this IS in the general Chit Chat forum. So just stay on the whitewater side and nobody loses a tent.
Anyway, my plans have changed. Instead of tomorrow and Friday, I am going up to Stevens Thursday. (they just announced that the backside is opening thurs.) All this new snow will be untouched. Nothing like virgin backside. (uh...that didn't come out right)
skiing or kayaking , it's all white water.
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Posted By: RemAcct2
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2007 at 3:17pm
Wish I could come up with you Thursday - I still have Friday open, though. Does your wife know about this virgin backside?
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Posted By: Disco Pop
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2007 at 3:33pm
I think I'm getting sick on Thursday. Larry, I hope to be there too. My kids might be getting sick as well
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Posted By: RemAcct2
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2007 at 3:50pm
Looks like Baker and Washington Pass are getting dumped on hard tomorrow. Anyone want to do some touring this weekend?
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Posted By: hugo
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2007 at 5:19pm
depends....do you have bc gear (and even more importantly, the ability to use it)? gone on too many tours with people that don't know shit. that is a good way to get fucked super hard and cold.
sorry for the rant...but here goes
as the snow starts to fall, i generally decrease the amout of boating i do (not stop though) and go ski alot more. seems like most of the folks that i have met touring are dumb. they probably have a beacon, but no idea how to use it. do you practice with your shit? not just how to switch your beacon between modes, but actually find a burried beacon. do you know how to do a proper fine search after a coarse search? now how to correctly use your probe? how about digging...right and wrong ways to do that too. i highly encourage you all to practice with your junk (both snow and swift water rescue gear), spend an extra hour in the upper lot at baker after a tour and bury a few beacons with your homiess. their ability to find it may change your mind about riding ob with them again. remember, your partners' lack of ability in this arena will likely not fuck them....it WILL FUCK YOU!
now with that being said...enjoy the snow and ride hard. if you are cool enough...maybe we could even hook up for a morning tour and an afternoon boat.
that is one good lookin' sandwich!
h
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Posted By: ashleygoesdisco
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2007 at 6:41pm
BWAAAAAAHAHA BACKSIIIIDEE
------------- Ashley Duffus
Well behaved women rarely make history.
www.naiyadays.blogspot.com
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Posted By: RemAcct2
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2007 at 9:04pm
Responding to hugo's post...
I am a backcountry novice. I started doing side-country last year using snowshoes or boots. I recently bought a splitboard, and will probably use it this weekend (if not in the backcountry, then in the resort to test the bindings). I took an avilanche class, and I do practice with the beacon (though I haven't yet this year). I am certainly not as hard core as the turns all year website crowd, and doubt I will given the time I spend kayaking. Right now, I am looking for some folks to go touring with, and perhaps learn from along the way. After all, snow pack analysis and alpine route finding is an ongoing learning process.
So, do you want to race me in a simulated multiple burial? I like my odds.
-Leif
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Posted By: dave
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2007 at 9:48am
I'm going snowshoing this weekend! It's alot funner and cheaper than skiing!
------------- Nomad
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Posted By: Tobin
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2007 at 9:58am
I looked up "funner" I didn't find it in the dictionary. 
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Posted By: STLboater
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2007 at 11:58am
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=funner
------------- Kayak Academy Whitewater Instructor
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Posted By: justin
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2007 at 1:38pm
BAKER RULES AND STEVENS DROOLS.
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Posted By: ashleygoesdisco
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2007 at 6:24pm
In that case, yes.
------------- Ashley Duffus
Well behaved women rarely make history.
www.naiyadays.blogspot.com
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Posted By: dave
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2007 at 9:36pm
I also ski and have since I was 3 years old, so I can say funner if I want. Skiing is great too!
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Posted By: SupaSta
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2007 at 11:20am
Originally posted by hugo
.... seems like most of the folks that i have met touring are dumb. they probably have a beacon, but no idea how to use it....
Uh ... I'm certainly not cool enough to pass the "can I hang with Hugo" test. 
Last time I hung out with a drill sergeant it was really fun and educational, so I guess it's my loss. 
------------- Life is short, paddle hard!
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Posted By: hugo
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2007 at 12:10pm
Originally posted by SupaSta
Uh ... I'm certainly not cool enough to pass the "can I hang with Hugo" test. 
Last time I hung out with a drill sergeant it was really fun and educational, so I guess it's my loss. 
You may not be, but that is okay...
If you are calling me a drill sergeant because I require people to know how to use the gear that is going to save MY LIFE or another person's life before I go on a tour with them or creek with them...then so be it, I am a "drill sergeant."
Don't be a dumb ass, there have been 6 AVI RELATED DEATHS in the past few weeks in OUR PLAYGROUND....so if I hurt your feelings... tough shit. I would be willing to bet that those connected to all the avi deaths wish that they hung out a bit more with a "drill sergeant." The statements that you have made are absolute madness. I was unaware that little kid gloves were required when out in the backcountry or on some steep creek.
Why don't you ask Kyle K if he thinks that way. I bet that he doesn't. He was with some shit hot dudes that knew thier stuff and got him out of a jam...kudos to him for selecting the right group of homies to boat with.
It takes more than big balls to eat at the big boys table for more than a meal or two...you gotta have brains dawgie.
Bottom line is, if that is not the criteria that you use everytime you decide who you roll with...then so be it...it is your loss, buddy.
Hugo
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Posted By: James
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2007 at 12:18pm
Dan... Hugo ain't no DS certainly ain't no RI but he is totally full of BS. If he ever joined the military, I am guessing he would get into the Audie Murphy Club right away!
J
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Posted By: hugo
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2007 at 12:27pm
maybe an RDC?
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Posted By: RemAcct2
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2007 at 12:29pm
First. I will be going to stevens tomorrow. Probably two seats left in. King chili. Larry's son might be coming up, so, please, no one who is predisposed to having sexual relations with the truck.
Also, thinking about Baker this weekend. Anyone interested?
Finally, can I eat at the big boy's table? Can I? Can I? Can I?
In all seriousness, I am looking for folks to do some touring with...preferably folks who know how to use the equipment (which I also know) and who know where the good places are (which I do not know).
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Posted By: hugo
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2007 at 12:36pm
Originally posted by leifkirchoff
Finally, can I eat at the big boy's table? Can I? Can I? Can I?
That is a question that only you can answer.
In all seriousness though, do be careful if you head out this weekend...huge amounts of wet dense baker style snow on a really weak hoar frost layer...only gonna get worse before it gets better. Probably not the best weekend to go out...especially if you don't know where the safe areas are.
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Posted By: RemAcct2
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2007 at 12:38pm
By the way, where did this six killed number come from. Nwac only reports two have been killed thus far?
It is always sad to see folks injured or killed, but statistics show it is more often than not people without proper equipment and adequate knowledge.
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Posted By: RemAcct2
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2007 at 12:41pm
Somebody seems to be lacking a sense of humor...
Waiting for snow to consolidate, but it keeps coming, which is good... I read the avalance forcasts too...
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Posted By: hugo
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2007 at 12:41pm
where does the pro patroller from crystal fit into the above statement? 2 at alpental snowshoeing, 3 crystal backcountry touring and 1 on rainier snowshoeing...he is not confirmed yet, but he has been buried for about 2 days now.
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Posted By: hugo
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2007 at 12:44pm
dude, what case studies have you read? I think that you would be surprised to find out how many big dawgs get bit when the snow slides. let me just find a few recent case studies for you. be back in a minute
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Posted By: hugo
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2007 at 12:47pm
Originally posted by leifkirchoff
Somebody seems to be lacking a sense of humor...
are you kidding me? the short time that i have been reading this board you have cried the most. talked to some folks about you up at the ashlu fest a few years ago...explosive device...are you f**king serious?
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Posted By: hugo
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2007 at 1:03pm
mostly inexperiance...yeah right, called the human factor, did they not talk about that in the class that you took?
these are just two, but they are recent and close to home.
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Posted By: RemAcct2
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2007 at 1:03pm
Didn't your Mother teach you it's not nice to talk about people behind their back?
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Posted By: James
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2007 at 1:23pm
I am not questioning the almighty Hugo, but I would love to get more details on the snowshoer's at alpental... I dabble a bit with the ole shoes myself and I am interested since I was caught in an avalanche 2 weeks ago with D1 and his brother up there. Ok ok it was only enough to bury our feet, but it was still an eye opener and a fatality is something I would really want to investigate since I frequent the area.
Fun Question What piece of equipment can be used for boating or snowshoeing and is also just as important for your car's rack, but often times gets stolen or snatched by other enthusiasts and is very breakable?
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Posted By: jondufay
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2007 at 1:30pm
Hugo, easy does it senor,
Even though I do agree with you in regards to your personal policies about choosing wisely the folks you boat with or ride with, you come off like a shit talkin' SOB, chill out man.
I am on your side. I too feel that there is a general cloud of complacency covering the backcountry world and boating world. It does not take much to make the "best trip of your life" into the "worst trip of your life," especially when you take into account the sports we are talking about.
Look lively out there and error on the side of caution. Seriously though Hugo, your message is right on, but your delivery needs work, you are loosing them with your "tart tounge". Sorry to be the one to tell you this.
Here are two links to 2 well done avalanche videos that I have recently seen.
Sorry Lief, it can happen to the "big boys" too:
And this one is just cool, talk about power...sheez!
Jon
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Posted By: RemAcct2
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2007 at 1:32pm
This is where I go: http://www.nwac.us/accidents.htm
There might be more data on turns-all-year.com, though I am new to that site.
Now, to answer the trivia, my only guess is a jack in the box antenna ball... What do we use in boating that is breakable?
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Posted By: RemAcct2
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2007 at 1:36pm
To clarify - I know it happens to everyone. Sometimes my statements come out a bit off when I am composing them on my blackberry - little tiny screen, you know. I don't recall the statistics, but there are certainly plenty of deaths that could be avoided with proper equipment and training. Is that 10%, 20%, 50%? I don't know without doing some digging. Certainly the paradise incident I heard about yesterday is sad, because there would likely (form what I have heard) be no loss of life had beacons been in use.
Bottom line: I have taken the class, know how to use the equipment, but am a novice. I have plenty to learn, but from what I hear, it is a lifelong process.
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Posted By: jondufay
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2007 at 1:40pm
yup, same here, taking my level II next month, pretty excited about it. Even though it is serious, it is also an enjoyable experiance to go up and play with your beacons. I like to have races, with beer being the prize. I like to print out the NWAC forecast and go up and dig a pit and see if my snowpack analysis jives with nwac's, and if it does...you got it...the prize is beer!
j
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Posted By: SupaSta
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2007 at 12:25pm
Originally posted by hugo
[....Don't be a dumb ass, there have been 6 AVI RELATED DEATHS in the past few weeks in OUR PLAYGROUND....so if I hurt your feelings... tough shit....
Lighten up dude! What's with the agro attitude? We're not a bunch of wilting flowers, but there's no need to be calling people dumb asses. 
Yes, these are dangerous sports, and yes, I know how much trouble one can get into by not picking a good posse. Tell me something I don't know; with all that alleged experience, you aught to be able to come up with something. 
The truth is, I'm pretty risk averse. I play it pretty safe. And I go out there to have fun with people of like mind. I don't do it so that I can run the steepest gnar and to feel superior so that I can call people who don't do it my way a bunch of dumb asses. But that's just me. 
Dan
p.s. when you do run the gnar, take some pictures. I certainly appreciate seeing people killin' it since I can't or won't.
------------- Life is short, paddle hard!
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Posted By: dave
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2007 at 9:45pm
you guys are funny and Leif is even funnier!
------------- Nomad
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Posted By: RemAcct2
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2007 at 10:06pm
Fun, Funner, Funnier?
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Posted By: huckin harms
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2007 at 10:41am
Bringing it back!
I am headed up to Stevens this afternoon and thought I'd share it- spending the next couple nights -Sat/ Sun night up there, so if anyone is headed up, or if anybody wants to bring some pallets. Staying in the overflow parking lot for the Rvs, I think. Look for a grey Chevy ExpressVan with racks. Or call - 253 three 50. 540three. Should be good.
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Posted By: RemAcct2
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2007 at 11:16am
I'll definitely be up Monday, and maybe tomorrow (Sunday) as well...
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Posted By: ashleygoesdisco
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2007 at 12:18pm
I think I'll be up there tomorrow and then Wed night through Friday maybe.
------------- Ashley Duffus
Well behaved women rarely make history.
www.naiyadays.blogspot.com
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Posted By: shrek
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2008 at 10:52am
"I highly encourage everyone to practice with their junk" - Hugo
I couldnt agree more. I practice with my junk all the time. Leif - Maybe Hugo can show you how to practice with your junk......
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