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Greenlake WW Kayak Race/Workout Session?

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Topic: Greenlake WW Kayak Race/Workout Session?
Posted By: fiddleyak
Subject: Greenlake WW Kayak Race/Workout Session?
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2010 at 9:53am
Is anyone interested in having an informal kayak race out on Greenlake (or any other Seattle body of water) this week?
I'm thinking mass start, and then 2-3 miles around some pre-determined buoys. I'd paddle my Burn, but any craft would be fine.
Why? Because paddling hard on flatwater is good for you and will make you a better whitewater kayaker. It's also more fun when there are other people to paddle around with.
How about Thursday at 7 PM?




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Posted By: jP
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2010 at 11:44am
Amen, Brother!
 
I'm down on the White Salmon still, and not sure if and when I shall return to Seattle. Otherwise I'd join you to fight the good fight
 
Fiddlesticks is correct.
The virtues of flatwater paddling are numerous and multifold.
Flatwater is the Tai Chi to the Kung Fu of Whitewater.
Learn to drive your boat independently of current.
 
A creekboat is a cumbersome, unweildy beast to push in a straight line for prolonged distances. To be adept at trimming your boat with your body (thereby freeing up your paddle to focus soley on providing forward momentum) takes a lot of flatwater paddling. Toning down the yaw that inherently occurs in any kayak so dramaticly designed to turn. You don't want to be trying to do that with your paddle, say, during a race. You want each forward stroke to only be doing just that: Moving you forward. And if you never race and never will, consider this: If your Trip Leader ever loses his boat in a canyon somewhere, you may need to race after his boat. And the quicker you get to it the less unravelled your trip will get.
 
In Flatwater you can really observe and feel the affects of the wake produced when you try to accelerate your creekboat beyond its top speed. It is interesting to pay attention to the effects this can have on the waveform generated by your wake, and therefore your ultimate speed.  It is nearly impossible to percieve these kinds of details in the whitewater environment.
 
I just enjoy it. I'd rather paddle than float. It is one of the ultimate moving meditations.


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Posted By: fiddleyak
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2010 at 11:55am
Thanks JP, I agree with you. One of the best ways to run a rapid well is to run it fast.
I'm sorry we aren't going to have your enthusiasm around for this one! 


Posted By: irenen
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2010 at 12:41pm
Sheesh JP, you always have something deep to say! (No sarcasm, to be clear. :)  I had never thought of that stuff in relation to flatwater but it all makes sense, I will be thinking about that next time I'm out on the lake.  Hope you mosey up to Seattle before too long!

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Posted By: jP
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2010 at 1:14pm
that's nice to hear
 
yeah- I'll try to pass through soon-
gotta figure out what's gonna go down in September-
lots of options from flying or driving to the Gauley for Gauley Fest and maybe some or all of Gauley Season. Anyone entertaining a pilgrimage back that way, feel free to contact me.
 
Gonna have my ears on in the coming weeks as I mix and match some of many  exciting possibilties...
May be going skydiving, for example...
 


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Posted By: rokmnky
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2010 at 4:03pm
i have a weekly tri practice that should end at greenlake around then or a little after. I can throw my boat on the truck for an extra leg. sounds like fun.


Posted By: fiddleyak
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2010 at 12:19pm
Well, I got up at 6am for a lap on my favorite run. Hurray for the start of the rainy season!
Unfortunately that means that I have to stay at work until 8.

If anyone really wants to do this, I'm still down. Maybe meet at 830 at Greenlake?

Email me at benjhawthorne@gmail or call 2o69999985 after 7pm.




Posted By: tiziak
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2010 at 1:42pm
There was no way man. Solo?

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Posted By: fiddleyak
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2010 at 2:07pm
Nope, paddled with the nurse with a poodle/terrier named Burt



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