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Topic: 2007 Swims: Fess Up
Posted By: PowWrangler
Subject: 2007 Swims: Fess Up
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2007 at 10:41am
This topic was started recently on a site I used to frequent a lot, mountainbuzz.com. 
 
It's entertaining (and sometimes educational) to hear about everyone's swims.  So fess up and tell us about the times you've pulled the cord this last year....don't lie, we know it happened.
 
Here's mine, just copied and pasted from my original post:
 
 
I've had three swims this "season"....most I've ever had.

First: Swam on first ledge of Fall In The Wall, S. Fork Snoqualmie. Was worried about getting wedged in pin rocks.....this swim definitely should not have happened.

Second: Swam out of Initiation on the Top Tye. Sticky eight foot ledge below Box Drop. Got sucked back in, made a few attempts to get out then remembered the three others behind me that were about to boof on my head. Didn't want to risk it and pulled since there was a small recovery pool nearby.

Third: Just over a week ago. Flipped at the crux ledge in P.O.W. on Tumwater Canyon, rolled, flipped, rolled, sucked into large hole with no breath. Pulled with no air left.

I'm proud to say, I self-rescued myself and all my gear each time though. Nonetheless, I'm hoping for a better winter season.



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Posted By: slickhorn
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2007 at 10:54am
shit, can't even count em all.  some highlights though:

got utterly destroyed a couple times on the illinois.  So used to creeking, I'd see over the horizon line, identify the rocks to avoid, and figure everything else was good to go.  Oh yeah ... forgot about big holes!!!

Swam on that ledge below Norm's on the cooper, the one with the log acrss the canyon at the lip.  too low for the clean boof, but better the swim than the elbow bashing some did. 

lots more, but that's part of IKin'



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Posted By: Yotes
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2007 at 11:00am
The ledge a quarter mile or so below sidewinder on the farmlands. Was loose in my creek boat and my hipsnap wasn't getting effectively transferred to the boat. Problem has been fixed now, so we'll see what causes the next swim (probably my new C-1 conversion).


Posted By: justin
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2007 at 11:03am
I swam on the eddyline at the top of Mel's on the Chilliwack, and after three failed roll attempts beneath Hussum falls this year.  Not to proud of either of them.  I have worked on my role and it is much stronger now.
 
 
I guess I should add the swim I had last night on Horshoe Bend.


Posted By: Wog67
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2007 at 11:06am
At this point in my progression its easier to count the rolls then the swims.... LOL

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Posted By: ashleygoesdisco
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2007 at 11:12am
1- First day down the N. Fork Sky. 7,000 cfs, flipped by the log jam right above the confluence. Hadn't really been boating for a while, and couldn't get forward to roll. Swam out, went over a pourover, straight onto a rock with my ass. Hurt for a week.

2- 1st time down White Salmon. Got stuck in the hole on river right at Waterspout. The leader (*cough**cough*bryon*cough*) said the hole was good to go and to aim for a little right of the green tongue. Surfed for a probably 10 seconds, windowshaded, tried to roll, windowshaded again, pulled the skirt, had to kick ridiculously hard to get out of the boat, and then kick more to get out of the hole. I was in the boat in the hole for about 30 seconds, and the boat stayed in for another 30 after I got out. Glugh.

3- Boulder Drop. I knew, at the beginning of the run that something was going to happen. Jay Kincaid was with us, and I just knew I would do something stupid. Flipped in the entrance, missed a couple rolls in the pool above the fence, pulled the skirt right above the fence, washed up against the rock that separates Ned's and the Needle, boat went through the Needle, I went through Neds, managed to swim into all the big holes below that, right of House Rock, and swam over the ledge at the bottom, and didn't notice until I looked back upstream at the rapid. I believe I spent 65%+ of that swim under water getting pushed around by holes and trying to not hit a rock and get air at the same time. Brett was right next to me the whole time, but... in Boulder, that doesn't do much good. I'm still kind of trying to get back on the horse. Sigh.

A


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Posted By: bronkrdr
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2007 at 11:15am

Pulled the cord, errrrr, yeah... I might have missed a few, but it went something like this: Klickitat - 3, Middle Middle - 5, Club Stretch - 1, Nisqually - 1, (between beginning of May and middle of June), Roll Class in middle of June, and then 4 swims on the Sky within a week of the class. Ever since, I've conducted quite a few lenghty inverted hydrological surveys for the USGS, and am awaiting my next out-of-boat beatdown with some trepidation. I'll double check my total with Tobin, since his memories of hauling my boat are a little more vivid than mine.



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Posted By: ashleygoesdisco
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2007 at 11:25am
Adam. Everyone is waiting for you to get thrashed. No hard feelings. You just deserve it. 

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Ashley Duffus
Well behaved women rarely make history.
www.naiyadays.blogspot.com


Posted By: James
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2007 at 11:33am

I swam on the sultan in Feb. We were playing at little paradise and I had a few OE' tall boys was loose in the seat and my legs popped out of the thigh hooks off a loop ... did a few attempts with a nice rock brace then swam and sat on the side swearing as Brad ridiculed from afar.

Cheers Brad!



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2007 at 12:26pm
Swim free season here, Heeehawww

After that statement I have a feeling a swim is coming for me soon.


Posted By: cloudpeak
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2007 at 1:54pm
MIddle Middle—2

Sky—1

Ottawa—0

This season I've been getting back into boating after a long hiatus. My roll was giving me trouble. I had a weak hip snap and an overly mechanical set up. Also, my braces and other paddle strokes have been weaker than I'd like. After spending a week taking a class on the Ottawa River and not swimming once , I'm hoping I have things dialed in better now.

Of course, we're all between swims.


Posted By: bronkrdr
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2007 at 2:15pm
Originally posted by ashleygoesdisco

Adam. Everyone is waiting for you to get thrashed. No hard feelings. You just deserve it. 
 
Ashley - I'm not quite sure how to take that. Explain please?


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Posted By: ashleygoesdisco
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2007 at 3:52pm
I'm pretty sure we had this conversation. You haven't gotten munched yet. And it's because you paddle that huge boat. You said you know its coming, and I agreed. 

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Ashley Duffus
Well behaved women rarely make history.
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Posted By: bronkrdr
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2007 at 4:17pm
I took a playboat out for a weekend. Ran B.D. in it, not that it may count for much in your hair boating world.  Besides, I don't have the exclusive liscence on the Jackson Rocker series.

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I drink rum and wear my wife's underwear when no one is looking!


Posted By: ashleygoesdisco
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2007 at 4:19pm
Hahaha. Ok. All back, all back. (Sorry, the raft guide thing again... )

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Ashley Duffus
Well behaved women rarely make history.
www.naiyadays.blogspot.com


Posted By: munkyboat
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2007 at 4:42pm
i got munched in the drop above the spout on the top tye, first real bad swim in 4 years.  I later heard it is bad karma to kill anything on the way to a class V.  I smushed a mouse that had been eating my food with a log the night before.  Coincidence? no way.   i haven't killed anything since!

moral of the story:
don't hurt animals.  if you do, go for a mellow run that day- and don't kill animals
jordan


Posted By: Texas Dave
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2007 at 5:15pm
I swam on the Foss after getting pinned on an underwater tree.  That tree gave me a black eye and a scar under my eye as a souvenir.
 
dave


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Posted By: Tobin
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2007 at 9:28pm
I got ya all beat!!!
   I swam last sunday on the middle streatch of the WS!  But in my defense I got all my crap to shore by my lonesome!  I was to hungover/ lazy to try to roll.  Pulled instantly !!
  
 Dont let anyone shine you on about your boat, Adam! I paddle with you a bunch and it aint the boat!!  You styled BD and our little suprise section of tummy/!!  In a playboat, just like Megan keeps telling ya, size doesn't matter
   If boats made the kayaker we would all be paddeling Meags!!!  Anyone that think different can pack sand ! 
 


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Posted By: Tobin
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2007 at 9:32pm
Oh and
 #2 was a 20 second no paddle upside down surf on grannies at 7k. I think riping skirt flushed me.
 
  #3 was on CC lewis, I kept trying to  roll up into a log,  I couldn't figure out why it wasn't working ( shoulda gone offside)
  I dont worry about not swimming, it scares me when I dont!


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Posted By: PowWrangler
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2007 at 9:26am
Originally posted by kayaktheworld

Swim free season here, Heeehawww

After that statement I have a feeling a swim is coming for me soon.
 
 
Ya, you just jinxed yourself boy........but who knows, you might keep a clean record if you just are surfin waves n'shit.   Heeehawwww


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2007 at 9:42am
Haha. Well yeah, it's true that I do prefer play boating.

On the otherhand, I definitely ran my fair share of class V and even some AW rated V+ this year and didn't swim any of it .


Posted By: PowWrangler
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2007 at 10:12am

Just curious, what was the 5+?

Have a great time in the Canyon.....I'm jealous.
 
 
p.s.  I hope your bringing a faster boat than your All-Star.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2007 at 10:16am
Green River Narrows, NC. Haha. Oh, and yes, I am bringing my All Star on the Canyon by the recomendation of a bunch of people I know that have done it.


Posted By: James
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2007 at 10:40am
What Canyon do you speak of?

Well I can honestly say that I am glad I swam on the sultan and not on any of the harder rivers I have done this year. I learned a lesson too... don't listen to brad when he is trying to explain how when you pound a few tall boy's of OE, you will loop higher, its not true.

When I think of it I have styled plenty of local rated III+ and -IV this year there were some class III runs too but you guys are most likely not interested in those.

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Posted By: Ryan
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2007 at 11:06am
I know I a had a few, lets try to recount them.

1 on Lower Icicle on the ledge below the crux ledge.  I plugged the hole and got stern squirted and sucked into the hole.  Tried to role with my paddle against the rocks and blew a thigh brace and pulled the skirt.  This led to a pinned boat right above the nasty wood/undercut sieve.  Thanks to James and Larry for getting it out with one throw bag.  It helps if everyone brings one *cough* James *cough*.

1 on Sharks Tooth of the Cooper.  This was lap two of my first time on the Cooper.  I missed the eddy at the top, got flipped in the ledge in the middle, missed a roll, then got my body pinned up against a rock and couldn't really move off of it.  I reached around the rock and pulled the 'ol skirt.

So, maybe just 2.  I think there may be another but can't remember.

I had a close call on Larry's ledge on FITW where hit the piece of wood sticking out at the top of the ledge on river left which dropped me sideways into the ledge.  Similar to what POW said I was REALLY nervous about the pin rocks so I let go of the paddle and reached for my skirt almost immediately.  After realizing this was silly I nailed a combat hand roll, flushed, and hand paddled in the eddy.  Whew, what a way to start a run.



Posted By: Megan
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2007 at 12:23pm

My swims, thankfully not too many this year, are not very exciting.  Still WAY less than Adam!!  Let's see.. 1: stupid rock on the Nisqually 2: stupid hole in Snowblind 3: stupid Leif hole baiting on the Deschutes 4: stupid stupid rock on the Elwa (I still can't believe that one!!) 5: White Salmon  Oh, yeah, and that is still not as many as Adam had on the Middle Middle....  I'm probably forgetting some, but I'll be pretty excited once I get that combat roll... 



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Posted By: bronkrdr
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2007 at 1:34pm
Originally posted by Megan

My swims, thankfully not too many this year, are not very exciting.  Still WAY less than Adam!!  Let's see.. 1: stupid rock on the Nisqually 2: stupid hole in Snowblind 3: stupid Leif hole baiting on the Deschutes 4: stupid stupid rock on the Elwa (I still can't believe that one!!) 5: White Salmon  Oh, yeah, and that is still not as many as Adam had on the Middle Middle....  I'm probably forgetting some, but I'll be pretty excited once I get that combat roll... 

 
We'll take this up at home later...


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I drink rum and wear my wife's underwear when no one is looking!


Posted By: Tobin
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2007 at 2:01pm
Originally posted by bronkrdr

[QUOTE=Megan]
 
We'll take this up at home later...
 
 You ae in so much trouble!! 


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Posted By: bronkrdr
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2007 at 2:41pm
Constant state of affairs - you know this.

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Posted By: Kiwi
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2007 at 4:44pm
I swam the Tiltion in the big hole at the bottom of Leap of Faith, but at least I got some cartwheels under my belt. Even unintentional ones count? right?


Posted By: ashleygoesdisco
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2007 at 5:54pm


Edit: Sorry Kiwi, that wasn't directed at you. It was supposed to be a quote of Adam's last post. I'm amused at the online bickering between a married couple.


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Ashley Duffus
Well behaved women rarely make history.
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Posted By: Kiwi
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2007 at 7:35pm
It wasnt very funny at the time. the lower tiltion goes through a narrow sustained class III+ IV gorge with nowhere to drain a kayak, thankfuly we had a raft along.


Posted By: tradguy2
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2007 at 11:26am
Note my signature, I am overdue. 
 
Maybe it's time for me to "nut up" a bit more.
 
Also, I'm pretty sure the Canyon Pow and KTW are speaking of is Gore Canyon on the upper Colorado.  I'm hoping to make a trip out there sometime. 


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Posted By: bronkrdr
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2007 at 3:37pm
Ashley - not so much bickering as a Cold War, just looking at each other waiting for the other to screw up so you have ammo. There, that should be enough gas to keep the fire burning for at least another 4 or 5 days.

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I drink rum and wear my wife's underwear when no one is looking!


Posted By: huckin harms
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2007 at 3:51pm
Dave,
I guess that I'm just not going to fess up ...  heh heh


Posted By: Jeff
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2007 at 3:56pm
So far I've only had one swim this year (so far!), and it wasn't too bad.. 
I decided to try out a creeker on the Sky @ 4200.  I thought, oh I'll just boof right through Ned's, no problem...Not so much!  Turns out you can't just be-bop through boulder in a creeker that you've paddled for all of 45 min. and not get stuffed!  I hit at least one roll, but got sucked back in and tried a few more before realizing that Ned's wanted to teach me a thing or two.  Lesson learned!  I will always respect BD!


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Posted By: arnobarno
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2007 at 8:23pm
Well, I had two swims since paddling season started for me last October when I discovered Professor Paddle - one swim comical, one swim serious.

The serious one was well documented on PP.  High water Lower Foss run; hit barely submerged strainer (and texasdave), flipped and then sucked out of my boat with extreme prejudice.

The comical one was on the SF Snoqualmie.  Ran down the weir, pinned on the rocks on the right and I was trying to rock my boat with my right hand in order to get free. When I freed my boat, boat slipped through the rocks, but, paddle was in my left hand and underwater and it got wedged against the same rocks as I slid through.  So, w/o paddle or hand roll, I quickly went over and swam.  Fortunately, I was able to retrieve the paddle two weeks later when the water level dropped!  But the swim cost me a round of beers.


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Posted By: oukr9965
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2007 at 3:16pm
If we're just talking 2007, then I had two in the same day.  Farmlands at around 5 feet.  Got beat down just after little lava where the river bends and drops to the left.  The hole, the wall, and the paddle and boat of the next person who got stuck in there had it's way with me.  The next came in the set of rapids right before the shallow stretch.  Definately shouldn't have swam there.  Self rescue the first time, could have the second but people were quick to me and I welcomed the help.


Posted By: tradguy2
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2007 at 1:47pm
Well, I believe a few of you got your wish this weekend as a certain someone finally came put of his boat.  I'll let him elaborate on the specifics.  He gets a big  for balls anyway, his judgement on the other hand... well it happens to all of us.   
On the other hand I get a big .  I got disoritented in POW, took the wrong line and was momnetarily pinned.  I stayed in my boat and finished the line upright but I don't want to thing about what might have happened had my bow been pointing in the other direction.  This is a good reminder that low water is not safe water.  The dangers just change.  James has told me several times it is often safer to run the meat than to sneak, I'm starting to see his point. 
Also, keep your eye out for bears now that the salmon are starting to run in places.  We saw a sow and 2 cubs just below POW.  At one point mama bear was 10 feet from my boat! 


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Posted By: bronkrdr
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2007 at 10:10pm
To elaborate on what Tom said - I have another swim to record (and a video of some bootie beer that I'm sure Tobin will post ASAP, mmmm, gritty) Bit off a little more than I could chew in the Wall and decided pulling skirt was the better part of valor after getting slammed up against a rock and drug over a few more upside down. Ran Chaos alright, and took a good look at POW. While I was walking it (I may be dumb, but not quite THAT dumb). I did whip out a good roll on the run out from Chaos, so good in fact I went right back over the other side. I'm happy to report the HOG retention system on the Shred Ready helmets works as advertised, I took one shot in the grill, one under the chin, two to the back of the head, one to the shoulder that knocked my paddle out of one hand, grabbed the paddle and rolled up. Through that all, the helmet didn't budge, but it defintely has some good scrape marks. Again, I'd like to thank all the guys that were out on that run for their patience with a newbie trying to step it up. Yep, defintely had a bad run on the Wall, but I spent quite a bit of time today looking at it and I'm looking forward to trying it again sometime soon. - Adam

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Posted By: Tobin
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2007 at 1:14pm
  He's a little vid of the aftermath!!!
 
  Karma gods are repaid,, I might still owe a little??


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Posted By: Tobin
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2007 at 1:18pm
  One memorable swim I forgot to mention, was in June on the SF Payette, canyon section.  I do not know hte name of the drop, but I plugged a eddie hole on the left ( my only description for it)  and tried abotu 10 times to roll up. I never got my head outta the water, I have never felt less paddle purchase!  I got shoved against the canyon wall as I was getting outta dodge.
  Swam out with my boat, Leif got my paddle.
  Drank up for that one!!!
 


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Posted By: tradguy2
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2007 at 1:27pm
I want to see the video of his boat making a solo run in the wall. 

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Posted By: ashleygoesdisco
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2007 at 1:30pm
Originally posted by newtobin

  One memorable swim I forgot to mention, was in June on the SF Payette, canyon section.  I do not know hte name of the drop, but I plugged a eddie hole on the left ( my only description for it)  and tried abotu 10 times to roll up. I never got my head outta the water, I have never felt less paddle purchase!  I got shoved against the canyon wall as I was getting outta dodge.
  Swam out with my boat, Leif got my paddle.
  Drank up for that one!!!
 



How far down was it?

I thought for sure I was going to swim on that run. No waayyyy!


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Ashley Duffus
Well behaved women rarely make history.
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Posted By: bronkrdr
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2007 at 2:31pm
Originally posted by tradguy2

I want to see the video of his boat making a solo run in the wall. 
 
I think that boat has recorded almost as much river time without me in it as I have paddling it.


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Posted By: tradguy2
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2007 at 2:40pm
Originally posted by bronkrdr

Originally posted by tradguy2

I want to see the video of his boat making a solo run in the wall. 
 
I think that boat has recorded almost as much river time without me in it as I have paddling it.
 
Maybe that is true for that run, but from what I understand you had not swam in quite a while. 


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Posted By: ashleygoesdisco
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2007 at 10:34pm
But he just started boating in... May? The numbers haven't quite caught up yet... 

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Ashley Duffus
Well behaved women rarely make history.
www.naiyadays.blogspot.com


Posted By: Moon
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2007 at 2:20pm
 We were on the sky, 900cfs and throwing bows into a ledge above split rock.... I had just jested with a fine young lady that our play wasn't that hard.... so I throw a bow in, side surfed a bit and attempted 5-6 rolls before calling it!  God damn I was laughing hard when I came up for air...

The boys mentioned something about booty beers and I laughed harder... I don't even own booties!!

Well..... all that laughing was even funnier when I opted to run the second half of Last Nasty upside down and backwards with no paddle.

I drank the damn booty beers


Posted By: Yotes
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2007 at 2:58pm
Failure to booty up usualy leads to more swims in the very near future, at least that's been my experience....


Posted By: bronkrdr
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2007 at 1:44am
You ain't kidding - the karma pool MUST be refilled...

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2007 at 7:01am
Bootie beer is the dumbest kayak tradition ever invented.


Posted By: James
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2007 at 7:50am
How would you even know, you have never even swam before!

You might enjoy it.


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Posted By: PowWrangler
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2007 at 10:43am
He's not old enuf to drink a beer anyway. 


Posted By: James
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2007 at 10:51am
I thought we had already declared an exception for Leif and any other minors or folks that are not into the cleansing qualities of alcohol. The substitution of Root Beer or a Soda in the bootie was supposed to be ok. 

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Posted By: Tobin
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2007 at 10:59am
  Is it a bootie beer if the swim was the result of an injury?

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