Aliases
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Printed Date: 23 Jun 2025 at 6:55am
Topic: Aliases
Posted By: James
Subject: Aliases
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2009 at 8:25am
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So as you know we have yet another spark of desire to end the aliases that have been started on this board. For those that voted in Brett's Poll ... A huge Thanks of course except for the 3 people that made 31 multiple votes to shut down PP, and a big thanks to Brett for adding that poll option along with Multiple Voting, a recipe for spite. Here is the interesting thing: A while ago we had someone join PP that was like the 3 who voted to shut it down. They were a little spiteful and decided to erase all the river and features and river warnings since that was a 100% un-moderated area. Because of that, I have made that area moderated to prevent abuse and forced all new members to be approved by a moderator. The problem is that for the last year as I have reviewed new members it has startled me how difficult it is to tell who is fake and who is not. Many of you know when you joined I sent you an email asking if you were real. That's alot of work and quite honestly I don't know how were going to 100% manage this. So to start this poll is just to remove the below Aliases that I have found. If you know of others PM me and I will add them to the list.
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Posted By: huckin harms
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2009 at 8:47am
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Aliases do sometimes cause conflict and can be irritating and annoying when used in a negative way, but censorship is NOT the answer. Allowing folks to contribute in an anonymous manner doesn't have to = negative content. It's more about individual discretion, and allowing the community to moderate content thru prescribed channels of intervention (whatever that means). But to say that a couple folks don't like knowing whose being malicious behind the screen, and allowing them to dictate the rules of engagement seems 'high and mighty'. But then... if removing aliases promotes the 'health and welfare' of an online forum designed for sharing and promoting a common interest (paddling), then so be it. I just don't think it does.
My 2 cents
MikeHarms
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Posted By: dave
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2009 at 9:06am
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OK, I am finally going to comment on this matter, I have been holding off until now. I have participated in other forums throughout the internet including professional, sports, gaming, and hobbies websites. All these other websites do not allow aliases to exist once they start spewing harsh language or other non-constructive statements (some do not allow aliases at all). They are allowed to exist if they have and continue to have thoughtful and constructive input relating to the websites function and activities. So, when Hugo like comments are made, Hugo gets banned from the site. Complaints are lodged and Hugo like people are either banned or suspended for a period of time, and a warning is issued to that affect to the abuser. This is how most other websites are handled and maybe we should join them on how we handle abusive aliases. I think this is reasonable and there is a report button at the bottom of each post that we all can use to report abuse on this website. SO, use it! I also think the report should be cc'd to the abuser so he can tell when he has crossed the line and knows that his time is coming to an end. I voted yes, but only if the alias is abusive and destructive to this website. It's time to grow up and get a little more serious about this great resource. That is all I have to say about this. D ------------- Nomad |
Posted By: slickhorn
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2009 at 11:03am
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I participate in a blog/community that has a similar feature Dave. Each post can be 'flagged' which alerts a mod to review the post, or 'recced' which is a recommendation. Enough recs and a post gets a little more weight, stays more visible etc. No amount of flagging triggers any action, only a moderator can take action about the post. Regarding aliases, I think people are conflating two separate issues: one issue is "aliases" that are secondary accounts used by posters when they don't want to say something themselves. No quality forum I've ever used allows these, and my vote to ban aliases above is referring to these secondary accounts used to hide people's identity (identity = their normal user account, not necessarily a real person's real name). the second is "aliases" that are like my username 'slickhorn' No, it isn't my real name. But it is my only account here, consistent with the username I use on Mtb Buz and boatertalk etc, I often sign my posts the same way I sign email, and my sig link goes to my blog so it's pretty easy to id me as a specific person. I don't have a problem with accounts like this, I think a username of "brian" or 'bvogt' is just boring. Slickhorn is an incredible slick rock tributary of the San Juan in southeastern utah and I chose it because of some special memories I have there. ------------- |
Posted By: Tobin
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2009 at 11:26am
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My question is;
If we ban irritating people because of their abusive and unwavering opinion, shouldn't we ban Leif? I agree, he has the sack to stand behind what he says. But, he is as inflammatory and irritating as any of the aliases. Are we drawing the line at unknown posters, or irritating ones? And who decides what is irritating? ------------- Sure? |
Posted By: dave
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2009 at 11:50am
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I revert back to the gaming community...
They ban people when their language and behavior is constantly derogatory and has no substance to the website. Example is constant f bombs and curse language directed towards people which has no place in society in general. It's a simple thing of being a human being and trying to be real. Being irritating is a normal attribute that many people share and is not a banable offense. Think of how you would act at work or with your family, this is kind of like a family. ------------- Nomad |
Posted By: James
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2009 at 12:00pm
| The poll will be left up for voting until next friday at which time we will make the final decision. |
Posted By: Tobin
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2009 at 12:04pm
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I treat my co-workers and especially my family with the greatest amount of respect.
Why? Because I care for them and respect their words as much as my own. If they took the time to talk to me, they deserve my respect. There is a reason people have 2 ears and 1 mouth. Listen twice as much as you speak! ------------- Sure? |
Posted By: slickhorn
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2009 at 2:15pm
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I think aliases are a problem because they are intentional efforts to hide an identity by posting under an alternate account. Because they are aliases, and not a user's primary account, only the most inflammatory posts are made under the alias. I don't support censorship, but I do support limiting users to one account. That's pretty common and consistent with other sites, as Dave mentions. If people want to be jerks with their one account, well, it's up to us to police the threads. No one is censored, but no aliases are present. I think it should still be possible to post anonymously. I don't think the alias is a problem because we don't know who the poster really is, it's a problem because it's a secondary account used for the most inflammatory posts. Leif certainly creates most of his own problems, and exacerbates others. I don't think he needs to be banned or moderated though. It's noticeably more calm around here with him away though. How much of that is him being away, versus those folks who always look to get in his face not having the opportunity though? on another note, I don't particularly like the edit function. Good idea, but abused on this board.If it were disabled, and someone really needed to correct something, they could quote their previous post and clarify. ------------- |
Posted By: JoesKayak
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2009 at 2:47pm
Where's the "I don't give a shit" option for poll? |
Posted By: Tobin
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2009 at 3:20pm
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Can anyone other than Randy Johnson 'get in' Leif's face?
I realize you were speaking metaphorically, but it made me smile.  ------------- Sure? |
Posted By: Wiggins
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2009 at 9:33pm
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My opinion on aliases is simple. You should get one account. What you name that account is up to you, but if you want to post personal attacks do it under your normal user name and don't hide behind some proxy account so nobody knows where the comment came from.
If anyone is abusive on here without provocation they should be suspended, and if the problems continue they should be banned. My take on Lief is that he contributes to the forum as well as the community, and while some of his posts have become hostile this is a direct result of other users drecting personal attacks on him. He can be bullheaded and he puts himself out there which makes him a easy target, but if you go around slapping a guy in face every chance you get don't be surprised if one day he tries to kick your teeth in.
We should not ban someone because we let a situation get out of control and they got pissed off at the people who have been attacking him.
Kyle ------------- I smell bacon |
Posted By: water wacko
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2009 at 10:14pm
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Slickhorn, D4 and Wiggins all make good points. I started all this because the aliases on here seem to just spew negativity. I have friends who live and boat here who won't come on anymore because of it. Anyway, I say end the aliases, talk shit if you want, but sign your name. Alias or not, if all you do is irritate people, I don't want you on my block. ------------- "Don't ask yourself what the world needs. Ask yourself what makes you come alive, and go do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive." ~Howard Thurman |
Posted By: SupaSta
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2009 at 10:21pm
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All very good points.
I just don't see a reasonable explanation for anonymous shit talking. Grow a pair and stand behind your words or shut the F up.
The one acount idea sounds best - I bet the smack talkers will vanish.
Dan ------------- Life is short, paddle hard! |
Posted By: hugo
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2009 at 10:30pm
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Harms for president... ------------- suck it |
Posted By: hugo
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2009 at 10:32pm
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Originally posted by dave
... All these other websites do not allow aliases to exist once they start spewing harsh language or other non-constructive statements (some do not allow aliases at all). They are allowed to exist if they have and continue to have thoughtful and constructive input relating to the websites function and activities. holy moly dude, are you dumb? you are making a case against your own damn self... ------------- suck it |
Posted By: dave
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2009 at 9:18am
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Yes Hugo, but I do not use a chicken sh*& alias like you. I just use my real name, and I have decided to take a more mature stance on this website and stop messing with people because I am bored at work.
This is a great resource and I would like to see it evolve into a serious sporting website that anyone can enjoy and utilize without the fear of being personally attacked because they have a real opinion. furthermore, I have never had any issues with Leif's posts. He is one of the more mature and intelligent people here. I just liked messing with him because he is such a fun guy. He is also one of the people that never got mad at me for pushing his buttons, he always took it like it was, just joking around and we had fun with it. ------------- Nomad |
Posted By: Meghan
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2009 at 10:24am
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I glad you pro-censorship folks do not run any other media. I seem to be reading 1984. |
Posted By: slickhorn
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2009 at 11:02am
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Originally posted by Meghan I glad you pro-censorship folks do not run any other media. I seem to be reading 1984. When I'm in a meeting at work, or at thanksgiving dinner at grandma's, I don't drop f-bombs, bait people or otherwise act like an ass (as much as possible, anyway). And if I do, I can expect to be disciplined. It's no different here. "Censorship" is a bit strong for what is being discussed here, in fact almost all the posts above are advocating people posting whatever they want to say here, but doing so from only one account. 1984 references are just ridiculously overblown here. No one is going to send Leif to the Ministry of Mank, take away his boats, and torture him for posting inane diatribes. ------------- |
Posted By: arnobarno
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2009 at 11:10am
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This has been a fascinating thread. What is striking to me about Professor Paddle is that it is a public forum but it is much more like a private club. Unlike other internet forums, most of the people on this site know each other in real life and often have boated together at one time or another. If you had an (in-person) meeting of a club, and some of the members of the club wore disguises and started calling other people dirt-bags (or whatever), the other club members probably wouldn't stand for that type of behavior. If a substantial portion of the conversation at a club meeting was name-calling and provocation, many members would be turned off and quit the club if the leaders (or the community) didn't decide to do something about the agitators. It isn't a censorship thing, it's a civility and maturity thing. So many great people participate in this forum and our community. But there are way too many jerks as well. Too bad as it has discouraged me from participating on-line or in-person. ------------- arn9schaeffer@gmail.com (remove 9 for my real email address) |
Posted By: James
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2009 at 12:01pm
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Just FYI to folks interested in the fine print. This poll will end on next friday. All votes made by Aliases will be removed from the count. It will also not be treated as a simple majority wins. I am looking for a overwhelming concensus of people that want Aliases around. A few folks might re-call our last few polls in the same exact topic. It was overwhelming that people wanted Hugo and aliases. Apparently everyone has changed their minds on the subject which is fine, I think the conversation is more important than a simple vote, at least it would seem those willing to discuss the issue are more interested in the outcome than those who just want to toss in a quick vote. I would personally say that this has more to do with post propaganda than post censorship myself. And although my patience is running low on many accounts it is not due to E-haviour but rather the current condition of my shi shi gashira (rest in peace)  |
Posted By: slickhorn
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2009 at 12:03pm
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Originally posted by James And although my patience is running low on many accounts it is not due to E-haviour but rather the current condition of my shi shi gashira (rest in peace) say it aint so! horrible news man horrible news ------------- |
Posted By: JayB
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2009 at 12:37pm
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Slickhorn and others have made the point that while aliases make it easier for people to bait and attack people in ways that they most likely wouldn't if they weren't intentionally concealing their identities (much less if they were interacting with their targets in person), eliminating aliases won't necessarily eliminate baiting and personal attacks. There are plenty of people out there who are more than happy to use their real name while doing all of the above, so in the end eliminating that behavior from a site is less about aliases and more about enforcing a set of standards that take the site in a direction that it's most frequent and influential users want it to go. If the objective is to get rid of people who are unneccessarily hostile and destructive, the answer is to give them the boot - whether they're signing in with their real name or an avatar. The problem with online forums is that it's difficult to achieve a consensus about what's permissible and what's over the line without alienating more people than you attract. There seems to be a sweet spot that encourages participation and grows the resource without drifting into either complete anarchy or an over-moderated online church-meeting, both of which are proven forum-killers. Most forums have explicit or implicit standards for conduct that evolve over time and the site owner and/or moderators enforce with time-outs, bannings, IP-blocks for people who go too far and it may be time to consider putting those mechanisms in place here. Since this is an open resource and often the only thing that you have control over is yourself - one potential way forward if you don't have the power to single-handedly overhaul the site is to "be the change you want to see." If you aren't an owner/developer/moderator really want to see a site go in a more positive direction, start by obeying the golden rule, and try to create the positive aspects of the site that you aren't seeing. If that doesn't work and you see something that you don't like, try sending them a civil PM first instead of immediately returning and/or opening fire in public. (Finally - while I'm a big pro-free-speech guy myself, that's a set of rules that applies to interactions between the government and citizens. If someone walks into a house, office, club, online forum, etc and offend the people there, the folks that run those places have every right to toss them out.) ------------- -Jay |
Posted By: PowWrangler
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2009 at 1:09pm
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I really don't care either way if the aliases stay or go myself. Sure, they lack the balls to own up to their comments, but it seems to be a minority of people on this board that are obviously extremely passionate about it. The vast majority just don't care that much and it's evident by the small number of votes on this post.
I still don't buy the argument that people avoid this website because of what Hugo and SBAL post on here. C'mon really?? Beginners and people asking sincere questions/posting good topics are never targeted by them. A website like this is user-generated and it's only as good as what people bring to it. Those that "avoid" it
Originally posted by slickhorn When I'm in a meeting at work, or at thanksgiving dinner at grandma's, I don't drop f-bombs, bait people or otherwise act like an ass (as much as possible, anyway). And if I do, I can expect to be disciplined. It's no different here. You don't think this website is any different than a meeting in a professional environment or dinner at grandma's house??
Originally posted by arnobarno This has been a fascinating thread. What is striking to me about Professor Paddle is that it is a public forum but it is much more like a private club. Unlike other internet forums, most of the people on this site know each other in real life and often have boated together at one time or another. Hey Arn, I see what you're saying, but this shouldn't be like a private club imo. I don't think it's accurate to say "most" people know each other. And it's unfortunate that a larger base of paddlers don't share a bit more on here instead of just lurk. I think some don't want to be homogenized into this greater "PP Community - Private Club" thing you just mentioned and Leif is so big on. Am I making sense or just driveling here?
Ok, back to work. Happy Friday Y'all!
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Posted By: slickhorn
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2009 at 1:17pm
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Originally posted by PowWrangler Originally posted by slickhorn When I'm in a meeting at work, or at thanksgiving dinner at grandma's, I don't drop f-bombs, bait people or otherwise act like an ass (as much as possible, anyway). And if I do, I can expect to be disciplined. It's no different here. You don't think this website is any different than a meeting in a professional environment or dinner at grandma's house??
I was trying, inarticulately perhaps, to point out that "censorship" is not the right metric here, as some seem to be caught up by that idea. My point was simply that in some settings, such as those I mentioned, what is socially acceptable is not a function of censorship or free speech, but rather manners and the culture at play in the event. JayB made my point more ably than I managed to: Originally posted by JayB (Finally - while I'm a big pro-free-speech guy myself, that's a set of rules that applies to interactions between the government and citizens. If someone walks into a house, office, club, online forum, etc and offend the people there, the folks that run those places have every right to toss them out.) I just don't see anyone here advocating censorship, and I think Meghan's comparisons to 1984 were more than a little ridiculous. People are risking their lives in Tehran right now where they face real censorship and opression. Let's try not to relate people acting childishly in an online forum read by a small number people with something as serious as censorship or the right to speak freely. People dying != people talking shit in a forum. ------------- |
Posted By: huckin harms
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2009 at 1:45pm
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It's true that to call a ban of alias's is NOT the same as censorship to speak freely in Iran or China or Nkorea, or what have you... but it is still a form of censorship. Basically, you are taking away the right to remain a user if you are anonymous. That sounds like a loss of freedom=censorship(perhaps in the mildest of forms). Either way it's splitting hairs, and as pointed out above, not all the negativity(whether in jest or not) is found just in anonymous 'alias' posters. More than once the 'alias poster', whoever it maybe, has made a positive contribution even if thought to be a point of contention. |
Posted By: slickhorn
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2009 at 1:55pm
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I disagree Mike -- people are asking for a single account per person. If you want to pick a username like live2kyak and not provide any personal details, are you not still anonymous? I'll make this my last post for awhile. But the thing I like about this solution is to me it seems the best compromise: people can post anonymously the usernames that people react viscerally to are gone people can still bait, talk trash etc. no one (as in person, not username) loses the ability to participate civility is something we as a community have to bring to the discussions here. I'm not interested in banning anyone or censoring certain posts or any of that. In fact, I've always voted to allow Huge etc to remain, cause it doesn't bug me that much. I voted to ban aliases in this case because my conversations with boaters who don't post here has consistently raised these bullshit types of posts as why they don't get involved here. Well, even though I'm a loner in real life and like to boat in my own little clique, I'm totally in favor of as big and vibrant a community as we can make here. So, given that any person can essentially say anything they want, and do so anonymously, but with a consistent username, I think this is a good step to take. ------------- |
Posted By: arnobarno
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2009 at 2:31pm
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Dave, I wasn't suggesting that PP is a private club - rather using that as an analogy for what constitutes acceptable behavior since this forum shares many more attributes with a club versus many of the other internet forums that I've participated in. To me, the big difference is that there are real life relationships between many of the people here. Anyway, like Slickhorn, the issue for me is civility, not aliases. There are tons of people I strongly disagree with on this forum - on a huge range of issues - and have no interest in surpressing their speech. Variety is the spice of life. But there are other people that are just lurking here to stir the pot and not adding any value to the community. Aside from occassional comic relief, I fail to see how the Hugos of the world add value though I clearly see how they subtract value. Many other communities have moderated forums specifically to deal with this problem. ------------- arn9schaeffer@gmail.com (remove 9 for my real email address) |
Posted By: Courtney
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2009 at 6:41pm
| It's all about taking responsibility for one's own actions. Aliase people don't take that responsibility. The rest of us do. |
Posted By: Meghan
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2009 at 6:22am
| Some of you are taking yourselves and this forum way too seriously. |
Posted By: hugo
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2009 at 12:52am
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yo meghan, i like your style. lets hump. ------------- suck it |
Posted By: 14kayaking2
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2009 at 1:44pm
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hmmm, you don't like my one for kayaking 2? I thought it catchy, and I back my name with me :) As far as aliases etc. who really cares? If someone is not willing to just come out and say what they want in the first place, and be willing to back it up, then obviously they aren't much of a person in the first place. So when someone posts something inflammatory or otherwise under the guise of some BS, just laugh at it and realize the man, or woman, behind those words is nothing more than a pathetic soul unable to make a stand for themselves and afraid of what others might think of them. I on the other hand will never say something behind someones back that I would not say to them face to face. Seriously. Either people will like you and your personality, or they won't. Or sometimes they won't, but they will put up with whatever it is they don't like because of a greater cause (cough cough, Leif, Hugo....the rest of you not mentioned here) Not that this is my view necessarily (though I will admit that Leif's chili certainly needed a lot more love (sorry Lief, just bein brutally honest....and no your right, I made no chili of my own). Anyway, Meghan said it best, too many take this too seriously. Who gives a rats ass who is "shredding the gnar", or how badly you were beat down in that last hole, or whatever. The truth is everyone is out shredding their own gnar and enjoying kayaking in their own way. Which also means posting stupid shit or whatever just trying to get someones goat(always wanted to say that). Frankly, I love watching people slam each other, it shows me who I don't want to boat with. Though some of these characters I would happily boat with just to see the ensuing madness that may spring from their antics. It is often highly entertaining. Have a great fathers day everyone. ------------- "We are only boaters between swims" Matty |
Posted By: Liz
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2009 at 9:30am
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I voted for ending aliases. They aren't the root of the problem, but I believe eliminating them will help. James, I just changed my name on Facebook and there was this note: Your Facebook profile must be attached to your real name. You must include your full name. Celebrity names, nicknames, or other fake names are not allowed and will not be approved. Obscenity, curses, and swear words are not allowed and will not be approved. ISn't~ ThIs <3 AnN0YiNg 2 ReAd? Non-standard capitalization and special characters are not allowed and will not be approved. Do not try to combine sentences into one word; Jane Lookatmysupercoolnewnickname Smith will not be approved. We review all name changes, so this will take approximately 24 hours.
Maybe adopting some policies like these could be useful?
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Posted By: James
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2009 at 10:18am
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Although I agree in some level, I competely dis-agree with all of the reasons behind facebook. They are a sell out to the community they serve and a waste of digital space. The rules are set http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2009/04/your-facebook-profile-makes-marketers-dreams-come-true/ - sheerly for the ability to advertise with http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/facebook_sells_your_data.php - extreme levels of targetting and also to sell your information to other entities. Of course my favorite is the new http://consumerist.com/5150175/facebooks-new-terms-of-service-we-can-do-anything-we-want-with-your-content-forever - user policy which is in sense what were discussing here. The we can do anything with your information, data, photos that we want. And how valuable would that be if everything were fake, like Jane Lookatmysupercoolnewnickname Smith. So do we need to ban aliases... I think so after seeing this poll and the conversations. But do we need to have any policies like Facebook. Absolutely not!!!! |
Posted By: Fish
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2009 at 11:25am
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If we are to ban aliases, then we need to ban every account without a real name, not just duplicate accounts, which is a lot of accounts here. You can't do one, without the other. So are we deleting peoples accounts that post without a real name? Is James going to be responsible for verifying each new, and old accounts without real names? I think it's lame personally. If people want to post with an alias, let em. If they abuse the right, and spew nothing but negativity, then ban em. But to suggest that every alias here, is always negative is incorrect, read the posters history. yes, Hugo can be abrasive and rude, but to eliminate him, would take away from the diversity and history of our online community. ------------- |
Posted By: James
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2009 at 11:41am
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Originally posted by Fish but to eliminate him, would take away from the diversity and history of our online community. What a load of BS. I like it though... well crafted and also curiously supportive of the old hugonad! |
Posted By: JoesKayak
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2009 at 11:50am
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Facebook sucks. We should replace all of PP with a Twitter style system. It would be awesome it would just be a big list of comments like... I'm at the putin I'm putting on my booties now I'm running right at the entrace of the drop I'm watching Dave swim  |
Posted By: Tobin
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2009 at 11:56am
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Originally posted by JoesKayak
I'm watching Dave swim
That is about right!  ------------- Sure? |
Posted By: James
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2009 at 6:44pm
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Tomorrow morning this will be a done deal. The tally will be counted and acted on. Everyone does need to keep in mind that there are other real Hugo's on PP and you should keep an open mind about the name Hugo!!! Sir Boofs a Lot might be another story!!!!  |
Posted By: RemAcct2
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2009 at 10:47pm
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While I was away from the Internet in Idaho, several people suggested I was as bad as Hugo. While I have no idea what might motivate that opinion, I trust I am not destined to be deleted?
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Posted By: Tobin
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2009 at 7:34am
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Originally posted by leifkirchoff
I trust I am not destined to be deleted? I vote we ban Leif! ------------- Sure? |
Posted By: dave
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2009 at 9:01am
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Leif is good, long live the Leif!!!!
------------- Nomad |
Posted By: James
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2009 at 9:07am
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The final vote was tallied at 12 for NO 19 for Yes Aliases are now suspended. For future policy we will determine aliases that need to be suspended by a poll in similar fashion. Not much will prevent someone from creating another fake account, it will be the nature of the posts that has them removed by community consensus. To Hugo Many often claimed that I was you But we both know it wasn't true Your posts were cutting and often bold Saying what you felt however mean and cold Many loved you for your blunt and callus take But your reign ended because you too were fake Like many you fingered out and blasted with a post You hid behind a mask and talked more crap than most I cannot argue the truth of many your aggressive view But maybe you bit off more than you could chew I wish you the best in your continued quest Instating honesty and putting silence to rest To Sir Boofs a Lot You know I'll miss you Mr. Cod But your approach was really flawed And Again many think that I am you But only you know it ain't true Your posts were less than hugo in class But you shined as a royal internet ass To all the other aliases In a final word we say goodbye In a few moments your logins will die Perhaps some day we'll laugh over a beer in a pub Or maybe you'll just move to the washington kayak club What ever the case and what ever your choice I'm sorry to have to silence your voice James |
Posted By: James
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2009 at 9:10am
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Should we close this thread by posting the true identities of each alias? |
Posted By: RemAcct2
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2009 at 9:16am
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Long live coreboater...
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Posted By: slickhorn
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2009 at 9:18am
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I don't think anyone has lost their voice. Hugo is free to post in that style under te other account that user has. An that account can still be anonymous.
Nicely handled James. In most other boards, this woul have equivocally handled by the site admin without feedback from the community. I think this has set the tone for the kind of conversation we would all rather see around here, and a reason I think this place will grow. Have fun at the boulderbash y'all; I'll be overnighting somewhere in the gifford Pinchot. -b ------------- |
Posted By: dave
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2009 at 9:22am
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So, we lost edit post too? I used that feature often when posting pictures to get it right and looking correct before finishing the post. I guess I could use preview post too, never tried that.
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Posted By: JoesKayak
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2009 at 9:28am
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Originally posted by James Should we close this thread by posting the true identities of each alias? That seems fitting. |
Posted By: RemAcct2
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2009 at 9:29am
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I, for one, want to see who James thinks all these folks are...
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Posted By: James
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2009 at 9:36am
| Interesting I would have thought that mystery would have been preferred... |
Posted By: dave
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2009 at 9:38am
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Also I use edit post to pull out old data like old links that I use to embed videos. I usually just hit edit post then I copy the old embeding code then paste into the new post then edit it for the new video. Now what am I going to do? Because I cant remember how to do it each time, I use edit post, it is easier... ------------- Nomad |
Posted By: RemAcct2
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2009 at 9:41am
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The truth of it is that several of the logins had multiple users, probably including James from time to time...
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Posted By: James
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2009 at 9:53am
Here are the real facts. Leif is incorrect, but he will argue since it is his nature.
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Posted By: Courtney
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2009 at 9:55am
| Don't make Leif go away. I like Leif. |
Posted By: Tobin
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2009 at 10:25am
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BAN LEIF BAN LEIF!
Wait where did he go? ------------- Sure? |
Posted By: Tobin
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2009 at 10:26am
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Originally posted by James Here are the real facts. Leif is incorrect, but he will argue since it is his nature.
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Posted By: dave
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2009 at 2:28pm
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Hahah, I like Tobins edit. Confucius was one wise man in his time...he will be missed... ------------- Nomad |
Posted By: dave
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2009 at 2:29pm
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Funny how Confucius could post simultaneously as me though...I thought that was not possible?
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Posted By: 14kayaking2
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2009 at 11:19am
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I guess I wasn't banned..... maybe it's cause I don't have an alias. My big curiosity is why some of these people who claim that there should not be aliases in the first place have their own.... ------------- "We are only boaters between swims" Matty |