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Topic: Sky gauge - is it right?
Posted By: SupaSta
Subject: Sky gauge - is it right?
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2009 at 8:46pm
Is it really flowing at 2000, or is it actually 3000? 
 
Trying to decide what boat to bring...
 
Dan


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Posted By: RemAcct2
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2009 at 8:48pm
Play boat or Play boat?

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Posted By: kurle
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2009 at 9:06pm
i would say 3000, but harms would be the guy to ask


Posted By: James
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2009 at 9:21pm
Yea I would say it is like 41.476% higher than the gauge says.

Just take the gauge and multiply by 1.41476




Posted By: jP
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2009 at 12:32pm
??????????
 


Posted By: ghost
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2009 at 3:15pm
Leif doesn't have to bring a boat cause he will swim BD anyway.


Posted By: up4air
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2009 at 8:55pm
it felt a lot lower today than last weekend. But the hole still got me; I slept in and missed most of you and forgot all about that lovely threesome. First time I've ever swam without my board; luckily we both flushed.

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More water, please.


Posted By: RemAcct2
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2009 at 10:15pm
Ghost?

I thought we decided to get rid of all the fake names?

I want Coreboater back...


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Posted By: franzhorner
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2009 at 9:00am
That must have been you I saw do a couple of laps while I was hanging out in Chris's crack.  It was awesome to see you come through Ned's!

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MORE RAIN PLEASE


Posted By: up4air
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2009 at 1:48pm
ya probably; I went through 4x. Neds wasn't sticky this time.

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More water, please.


Posted By: water wacko
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2009 at 5:54pm
Ran Top Tye today and it was a good low level. Watch the ledge below Crack in the Earth. One of our group got stuck. Didn't flush in or out of the boat, Had to use the ol rope. That is a great run.

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Posted By: Courtney
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2009 at 8:49am
I've been noticing that the Sky gauge seemed to be off about 1000 or 1500 cfs so I wrote USGS and here is their response: 
 
"Thanks for your interest in USGS streamflow information. Here is the note from the Web page for station 12134500 (Skykomish River near Gold Bar): "Discharge data unreliable because of known significant changes in the channel bed that have occurred as a result of the recent flood flows. The results of discharge measurements being made at the gage will be used to define a new stage-discharge rating for use in determining reliable discharges." In our ongoing effort to redefine the stage-discharge relationship, we performed a manual discharge measurement on May 28, 2009, and subsequent adjustments will be made to recalibrate the gage. We know that you and many others use our streamflow data to stay safe on the rivers, and we will continue to monitor the performance of this gage and make adjustments as we acquire more measurements. Thanks again for taking time to send us your observations, and we hope you'll continue to use our Web pages to "know before you go" for your safety."
 
The gauge has been reading low so please be aware of that the next time you run the Sky. 
 
Courtney


Posted By: water wacko
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2009 at 9:04am

The gauge is working again.



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"Don't ask yourself what the world needs. Ask yourself what makes you come alive, and go do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive." ~Howard Thurman


Posted By: Courtney
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2009 at 9:40am

I sent an e-mail to them last week and just got the response yesterday.  Of coarse I cut and pasted it on PP before reading the other posts that they updated it.  It would have been nice if they had told me that in the response too.



Posted By: huckin harms
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2009 at 9:51am
Thanks Courtney for sending the email!


Posted By: Leland
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2009 at 9:22am
So is it corrected to where the Sky gauge reads like it did in past years, or is it reading the same way it did in the end of June this year?

The email seems to be saying they haven't changed it since May 28th. When I was there in late June it was still not right compared to 2008 or 2007.

Which is it?


Posted By: Tobin
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2009 at 9:33am

HIGH

 This would be High



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Sure?


Posted By: Courtney
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2009 at 10:22am
The adjusted is more just a few weeks ago and supposedly it's back on track or close to it.  I'll know more after I paddle it this evening.


Posted By: Leland
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2009 at 11:28am
Thanks Courtney - I'd love an update after you paddle!


Posted By: tradguy2
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2009 at 2:08pm
I think the gauge now reads a little high.  Last weekend it seemed lower than the gauge indicated.  I remember Ned's being wider with the same flow in years past/ 

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Posted By: Tobin
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2009 at 2:15pm
Originally posted by tradguy2

I think the gauge now reads a little high.  Last weekend it seemed lower than the gauge indicated.  I remember Ned's being wider with the same flow in years past/ 


Time to lay off the Twinkies?

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Sure?


Posted By: huckin harms
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2009 at 2:57pm

Leland, sometime ago, say month or so the Sky guage was updated- the change was a 1k difference and that was a very obvious fix.  Seems like with any changes in the guage there is always some small difference... like a check-book account being off in cents rather than several hundred dollars.  At anyrate I'd count it as good as good gets now. 

 


Posted By: Courtney
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2009 at 8:58am
Well the USGS was right about the river bed changing.  In some places it seems like the gauge is right on and in other places it seems like it's about 100 cfs off, meaning it should read a little higher.  All in all I would say that it's pretty close.  Some of the places that used to be scrapy at this level are not anymore which is nice but some other places are.  Reagardless, the river was still fun last night.


Posted By: Leland
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2009 at 9:09am
Thanks Mike and Courtney for the feedback! I'll adjust the numbers in the new guidebook *again*, and pray that another flood doesn't change it all around again before it hits the shelves in spring.



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