How long do you wait?
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Topic: How long do you wait?
Posted By: Weide
Subject: How long do you wait?
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2009 at 9:38am
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What is the accepted length of time to wait at the put in for people who say, "I'll meet you there?"
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Posted By: JoesKayak
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2009 at 11:53am
It depends on a lot.
Distance travelled, how firm the commitment was, what the previous communication was, etc. those all make a difference.
If I meeting at a set time for a quick local run, I'm not waiting for a no-show as long as I'm waiting for someone I'm meeting in Idaho for a 4 day trip.
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Posted By: Jimmy
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2009 at 12:25pm
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Also depends on how many times they have no showed in the past. Multiple no shows, no wait time.
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Posted By: RemAcct2
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2009 at 12:27pm
It depends on whether or not it is me they are waiting for.
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Posted By: Courtney
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2009 at 6:30pm
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For the average river run within a few hours drive, 30 minutes. However if they are repeat no shows then I don't wait at all. In fact I usually quit asking them to go paddle. If they are usually 20 or 30 minutes late then I set the meet time 30 minutes later or tell them to meet us at the put in ready to paddle.
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Posted By: Courtney
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2009 at 6:31pm
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Whoops. I meant I set the time 30 minutes earlier.
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Posted By: Ambre
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2009 at 7:50pm
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Is this kayaker time or real world time? Because by my watch when a kayaker gives you a time as a rule you always double it.
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Posted By: jP
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2009 at 10:11pm
The whole "kayaker time" doesn't help. There are different times for different kayakers. Seems like the kayakers I like to paddle with the most are generally dependable within 15 - 20 min at the worst. They often don't wait around much more than that. 10- 15 is a reasonable margin within the 2-3hr range.
The thing is, if I'm going to the Sky, an I know there's going to be lots of people there, I know that many will be late. It's the Sky. So I know better than to show up exactly on time there, or maybe I just don't want to always hurry for the Sky. Afterall, I could just as well solo it if I were to miss the group, and sometimes an unhurried stop or three up HWY 2 isn't a bad thing. Cute baristas in the coffee shacks along the road, for example.
But the important thing is to know and understand when timeliness is important! For example, during the winter months, and/or any trip involving the Oly P, a timely meet and an early start are critical. Lots of would-be good trips get sabotaged in the morning long before arriving at the put-in. Anytime hiking is involved, ect.
Just because I have no life (outside of paddling) doesn't mean I assume everyone else's lives are the same way. People (esspecially those with families) are busy in general, so it's important to remember that punctuality matters. Still, we are all fallible, selfish critters.
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