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Topic: All new equipment. Posted: 27 Dec 2006 at 12:24pm |
So here is what I'm looking at, after 14 years of the same leaking equipment and 3 years in a Tekno that is too small for me (being 220lbs and 6'3"). I'm putting together a $3,000 package- Wavesport EZG60, Kotatat Gortex dry suit with all the trimmings, Sweet Rocker Helmet, Aquavest 300 PFD, Werner Bent shaft graphite paddle, and a partridge in a pear tree (o, christmas is over isn't it?), plus sprayskirt and stuff. Basically starting over from scratch and get ready for the spring runoff. So how does that sound so far? Any suggestions? I like to play a little but want the stability of a bigger boat, but don't want a long creek boat, like to surf more than throw down, but like to mess around a little bit now and then, and like to run rivers around class IV- III. Thanks
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Posted: 27 Dec 2006 at 1:19pm |
First off let me say this... You got the wrong boat.
You don't want the EZG. You want the Project. The EZG is a tweener boat. You want a ZG or Project. Or check out some other playboat. You will be sorry if you get the EZG though. I just know it.
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Posted: 27 Dec 2006 at 1:32pm |
Ya, but I want a boat that is like a creeker with high volume, but short like a playboat so I can play once in a while. I not a hardcore playboater, I'm an all around kinda boater, but like a short boat for high manuvering and surfing. I guess I'm still waiting for someone to mke the perfect boat for me, Plus I'm tall and 200+.
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Posted: 27 Dec 2006 at 1:35pm |
The EZG60 looks like what I need and It's fairly comfy, but I don't know anything about boats, so I do need advice. Just remember that I am not hard core and need some volume. (does the 60 meen the volume? If so that isn't very much, I may be looking for 65 Gal?)
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Posted: 27 Dec 2006 at 2:28pm |
I've paddled the EZG 50, surfed it some too. It's a good boat, although the 50 is a little low volume for river running for me. The hull is nice for surfing, and well balanced for cartwheels. You probably won't get a lot of the higher end playboating moves out of it, but if you're looking to mainly front surf, spin, and cartwheel it'll do all of that pretty easily.
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Posted: 27 Dec 2006 at 2:59pm |
Don't get the EZG. It is a crappy boat. If you still want a boat with a little more stability than an all out player like the project, go for the New Fun from Jacksonk in whatever the appropriate size is.
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Posted: 27 Dec 2006 at 3:03pm |
heard good things about the LL cross-river 250-- that might fit you. nice river runner, but playful as well.
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Posted: 27 Dec 2006 at 3:05pm |
btw, i like the head-trips helmets more than the sweets. their web site is a little ghetto, but it's a nice helmet http://www.kayakinghelmets.com/
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Posted: 27 Dec 2006 at 3:10pm |
Dude Yotes ... you sucker ... I heard about your Air 55.... hahahah dude that had to be one of the funniest stories I have ever heard. You need to blog that dude... post it up please it is way too funny. And remember I have an Air that you can buy! Oh yea the CrossRiver from Liquid Logic is a killer boat. Well from what I have heard. Same thing cartwheels and surfs but not a throwdown machine. The difference is that I have seen people loop and throw moves on the skook with a crossover. The EZG is getting a little less agressive in my opinon. ~J
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Posted: 27 Dec 2006 at 3:39pm |
I've paddle all of the boats mentioned. I'm smaller than you are Ryan, but the boat that you want is the Super Fun which is the largest in the Fun series. It's a great all around boat and will serve you for many years even after you've become a mighty rodeo king throwing
Mc-Nasties and Mc-Twist-Its. The CR 250, I think, would be your second place if the Super isn't long enough. Good luck.
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Posted: 27 Dec 2006 at 3:46pm |
Yeah, that killed a weekend for me. I'm looking at a few solutions right now, hopefully I'll have a working playboat within the next month. I'll put up a blog as soon as I get some pictures of the damage.
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Posted: 27 Dec 2006 at 4:13pm |
Good stuff, hopefully I will be getting a new setup in about a month or so. That will give me some time to research some different boats. What about dragorossi boats?
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Posted: 27 Dec 2006 at 4:19pm |
Project 62?
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Posted: 27 Dec 2006 at 4:29pm |
Just checking out the New Fun, looks like a cool boat, those guys make it look easier than James does! Looks like the 4fun would be the boat for me.
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Posted: 27 Dec 2006 at 6:37pm |
Dave,
I have a Pyrahna 420 ML for sale if you wanna try it out. I'm 6'3" and 235 (maybe 240 after the holidays) and I found it to be just a little too small in volume. It might be just right for you if you're 220lbs. I boated the Pyrahna all summer and I wish they made one with just a little more volume.
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Posted: 27 Dec 2006 at 8:13pm |
A lot of talk about boats here, all good stuff, but what about that helmet?
Sweets are over-rated and WAY over-priced! Not to mention customer service sucks.
Drysuit? Definitely get the relief zipper and consider the gore-tex booties.
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Posted: 27 Dec 2006 at 8:22pm |
I was looking at the Sweet helmet because it is a composite helmet that also covers the ears. I would like to cover my ears and the other composites don't, or they hit the top of my ears and rub them. ouch
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Posted: 27 Dec 2006 at 8:27pm |
hmm.. i have the daffy from head trips, and it covers my ears. i guess it depends on the head shape. if you are ever at SRK, check them out there, they have them.
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Posted: 28 Dec 2006 at 7:56am |
One more thing, should I buy everthing online? some places offer free shipping on boats, discounts on gear when buying boats, and no tax! That could mean instead of spending $3,000 only spending $2500. Or should I support our local shops and Washington state. To bad our local guys couldn't sell online and offer no tax. Lets see, tax on 3k is around $270.00 (thats alot of gas and beer money)
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Posted: 28 Dec 2006 at 11:09am |
I say support the local shops. We will be sad when they're gone.
You may be able to research prices on-line and then use that information to get competitive prices from the local shop, considering that you're buying multiple high-priced items. We have at least a couple of shops; go with the one that gives you the best deal.
Yeah, it will be a bit more foot-work on your part, but you will be helping out the community by supporting our local shops.
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Posted: 28 Dec 2006 at 11:14am |
Ya, that makes sense.
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Posted: 28 Dec 2006 at 12:53pm |
I can help out a bit more than that.
You give me the 3k and I will drop off the following.
1 - Slightly Used - Like New - Air 55 (Custom Modified for Perfomance)
1 - Slightly Used - Like New - Stolquish Dry Top (Leaks a small amount, well alot)
1 - Slightly Used - Like New - 198 cm Aqua Bound Carbon Paddle (Has 2 Cracked Blades)
1 - Slightly Used - Like New - Protec wakeboarding helmet (Cracked along back)
1 - Slightly Used - Like New - IR Fleece Jump Suit (River scented added free)
1 - Slightly Used - Like New - NRS Booties (A bit of Duct tape on them, maybe removable)
Let me know if your interested. I could sure use the support and nothing beats the old motto, Reduce, Re-Use , Re-Cycle
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Posted: 28 Dec 2006 at 4:23pm |
Dave, I am a Bliss Stick whore!! check out the Rad 185, it's got good volume but isn't way to big!! If you want more the 195 is HUGE. Hell Leif fits in the damn thing.
Dont listen to Dan on the Sweet helmets, I am thoroughly convinced that I wouldn't be here with out mine. I took a blow that cracked it, and I walked awy ( kinda wobbly but I walked away). Their customer service is on par with every other kayaking company. Not to Nordstrom standards but acceptable if you are willing to wait.
Do not go NRS for the dry suit, but if you want one, I have one in about 20 pieces I will sell you cheap, and a PFD that needs some repair.
Palm suits are looking really good to me, I love mine. Check out the Bliss stick boats,, they are a great price and the outfitting is awsome.
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Posted: 28 Dec 2006 at 7:50pm |
Oh James, that equipment does sound sweet, but I'm going to have to pass for now. I feel obligated to support our economy and purchase all new equipment. Thanks for the awsome offer though.
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Posted: 28 Dec 2006 at 7:52pm |
I may be interested in the booties though, they may make nice beer mugs!
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