Pure XL
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Topic: Pure XL
Posted By: wwaddict
Subject: Pure XL
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2011 at 4:23pm
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I don’t post much and when I do it’s mostly to give people crap so thought I’d try to add something of value… This should probably go into a product review but then no one would read it. Anyway, I’ve been looking for a new creek boat and mostly considered the new burn, everest, villain or prijon pure xl. I decided to go with a pure xl based upon several reviews and their reputation for bomber plastic and a 5 yr warranty. Other major factors were the boat weight (I think its 47 lbs) and volume (87 gal seemed about right after demoing the villain at 92.5, and my burn at 80 or everest 84, I’m around 205 without gear so was looking for a little more volume). Don’t quote me on these numbers, I’m really sensitive about my weight. I have only paddled it twice but after the second time I am super stoked to have gone with it. I was able to get on some bigger water and it seems very stable. I won’t go into the details of what kind of hull, rocker, edges, secondary stability, blah blah blah or what they mean cause I’m not all that sure myself (did I just discredit my review with that statement?, wait… who gives a f#ck). Their website has some good pics if you want to take a look at it. It is a little longer at 8’-10” than I thought I would like and did notice the extra length. However, it does perform well and I found that while keeping my weight more forward and aggressive it stays on line very well while still being able turn and when in a more neutral position I was able to spin it around pretty easy to change direction. It’s faster than my burn. So, initial verdict is that it kicks @ss. It will still plug the sh!t out of drops if you don’t boof. So that sucks… -joe |
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Posted By: shrek
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2011 at 4:33pm
| You call this value? Try again. That boat looks like a turd I dropped after a long night of drinking. |
Posted By: shrek
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2011 at 4:34pm
| I'm just kidding. I'm actually really jealous. |
Posted By: DaveH
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2011 at 4:45pm
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I think you're just jealous of his weight.
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Posted By: James
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2011 at 5:17pm
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I don't think that he is jealous of how big joe is.... oh I get it And to chime in on the note of turd... drinking does not make nice turds.. you need some solids in your diet there Shrek, stop splatter blasting and get some food on your menu!!!!  |
Posted By: huckin harms
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2011 at 6:31pm
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right on Joe! glad to hear you got a new boat... and one that should last- 5yr warranty, wow that's amazing!
thanks for sharing your thoughts about it.... ------------- |
Posted By: shrek
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2011 at 9:36am
| Hey good idea James. I'm having jello shots and bourbon balls for dinner tonight. I'll let you know how it goes. |
Posted By: James
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2011 at 10:06am
| If bourbon balls are like body shots and Joe is going to be over there I don't know if I want that update! |
Posted By: DaveH
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2011 at 10:34am
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Footage of the Bourbon Balls Body Shots from Joe's helmet cam will be featured in the previews at SIFF's Wildwater movie night. ------------- 206-795-0617 |
Posted By: fiddleyak
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2011 at 12:01pm
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Glad you like the boat Joe. No more of this "I'm gonna hike out above the gorge 'cause my boat's broken" bs.
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Posted By: jP
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2011 at 3:11pm
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sweet, Joe. I just saw one last Saturday at the Put-in. My Eskimo (same molding process) has over 260 some trips on it in the last 3 yrs, basicly still going strong!
ALL modern creekboats basicly have plenty good secondary stability. The chines (yeah just cause they aren't razor sharp like the burn doesn't mean they aren't there or aren't affective, they just work a little different) are very much like the Salto (my boat).
I noticed that it still comes to a more "old school" flavored point in the bow, so while the nose has plenty of lift like any contemporary creeker, it will still pierce through stuff. This, IMO isn't "good" or "bad", it just is what it is and will have pros and cons depending on the situation.
8'10", huh? sweet! looks like we need to lobby for slightly longer length restrictions in these races so the Pure can be included in them. 8' 10" is plenty short. Period.
The widest point is noticably present near the knees. I
d really be curious to know how wide the boat is. Looked wider than 24" for sure...
Originally posted by wwaddict
It will still plug the sh!t out of drops if you don’t boof. So that sucks…
yeah, my Salto is that way too, and it kinda did suck at first till I got used to how the boat handeled.
I suppose that since there is still a very strong "old school elite" designing those German boats, some old school principles prevail as well: for example, (and this is just me speculating,) I imagine that these German designers expect a paddler to bring certain skills to the boat, whereas more recent boat designers seem to want to broaden their market by designing boats that "boof themselves". I think you'll find that if you keep an open mind about the Pure's design traits, you'll tap into some of its hidden potential. You can't gain some traits without abondoning others.
anyway, enjoy ... ------------- 🐋🐋🐋🐋🐋🐋🐋🐋🐋🐋🐋 |
Posted By: shrek
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2011 at 4:24pm
| Dave H likes bourbon balls on his chin |