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  Quote PowWrangler Replybullet Topic: Large Burn
    Posted: 22 Apr 2008 at 1:08pm
Currently debating if a large Burn is a good choice for me or would it be a wee too big, especially since I'm not some sik boater who can throw any ol' boat around.
 
I'm a svelt 180 pounds without gear, 5'10", and like long walks on the beach.
 
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  Quote Fish Replybullet Posted: 22 Apr 2008 at 1:14pm
Hey Dave,
I've actually been paddling an Pyrahna Everest lately (larger than the Large Burn) and l love the extra volume!  It feels great in class V and it's not as cumbersome as once assumed.

You would likely love the Large Burn!   Besides, if you ever want to do any multiday, the extra storage will come in handy!  Just think of all the extra beer you could bring...
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  Quote dave Replybullet Posted: 22 Apr 2008 at 2:57pm
Actually the Medium may be a better boat. I am 210 6'3" and the medium is fun and responsive. It also can throw ends and surf/spin! Yes, you can throw down in a creek boat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  Quote LuckyLiam Replybullet Posted: 22 Apr 2008 at 3:04pm
I'd go medium.   I have a friend in CA pushing 210 who uses on multi-days.
Especially paddling in WA where its mostly one and done.
Aquasports may have a demo??
 
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  Quote James Replybullet Posted: 22 Apr 2008 at 3:09pm
I am loving the Large Burn, in fact I am pretty sure that I am going to bumper up and get one. Now I need to try that everest to be sure!

surt/spin? Throw down? Who thinks its time to get Dave out on a Creek!
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  Quote dave Replybullet Posted: 22 Apr 2008 at 3:11pm
Just remeber with a medium, a big guy like me is getting tail swamped in biger holes and drops. A good boof is a must!!!!!
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  Quote dave Replybullet Posted: 22 Apr 2008 at 3:12pm
Ya ya whatever James!!
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  Quote Will Replybullet Posted: 22 Apr 2008 at 3:27pm

I have been eying a large myself. Its not as big as you may guess.

What could possibly go wrong?
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  Quote PowWrangler Replybullet Posted: 22 Apr 2008 at 3:42pm
Hmmm, decisions decisions.  I've got a hook up on a large that's a year old, but only has 20 days on it and it was not used for creeking...for $600.  I'm not interested in paying $1,200 for a new one, otherwise the medium would be an option.  I'd really like to hear from more folks my size who have a large. 
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  Quote dave Replybullet Posted: 22 Apr 2008 at 3:50pm
You buy the large and I will trade you my Medium?
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  Quote cronar Replybullet Posted: 22 Apr 2008 at 9:15pm
Dave, the large is a good boat.  But then I haven't paddled the medium and I have a bit of umm err mass on you.  If you can, take a large for quick spin and see how it floats you and reacts.  The one complaint I've heard from someone that had a medium and went to a large is he felt he was reaching a lot further to get the water with the large.
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  Quote zenofww Replybullet Posted: 23 Apr 2008 at 8:19am
Im 170 5' 10 and have paddled both sizes burn.  when full of gear (rescue,saftey,breakdown,video camera) the med burn feels low in the water to me, I like the feel of riding on top of the water and the L does just that.  I say go big, were not boating in the S.E., were paddling rivers out here in the NW, some length and volume are your friends.  The design of most boats nowadays nearly ensures that they are decent at boofing, user error seems to be the main problem.  as per the whole reach thing, a small amount of foam under the seat (1/4-1/2 max) can help alot,  or get a bigger paddle, more reach=more leverage.
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  Quote hardboof Replybullet Posted: 23 Apr 2008 at 8:57am
I would go large.
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  Quote toddg Replybullet Posted: 23 Apr 2008 at 11:01am
zenofww & i discussed this just the other day .. he's 5'10/170# & i'm 5'11" /165# ..

he likes the floaty on top of the water feeling of the large .. i actually like interacting with the subsurface currents a little more. i've paddled my medium fully loaded on multidays & loved the performance.  i don't feel like its "buried" or sluggish.  to the contrary, my first real Burn paddling experience was Day 1 of a stein river multiday & i found it to be right at home in those conditions. it likes to be really driven, using edges & sidewalls, which is how i like to paddle.

one thing we can all agree on is that the hull design is about perfect for the nw/bc.

moral of the story? get in them both & paddle them back to back several times on your favorite run.  if you decide you want the medium, you can buy mine.
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  Quote sworcester Replybullet Posted: 23 Apr 2008 at 12:55pm
I'm 5'10" 185lbs. I have a medium and a large Burn. I paddle the medium on day trips, the large on overnights. At this weight we are in that in-between range. I love the way the medium carves on edge. It thrives on a forward, aggressive posture. But when I start to load it down with gear it gets a bit more sluggish and the tail will start to load up. I'm guessing this is at 200-210lbs? The medium is my weapon of choice when I paddle rivers that push my skill (unloaded).

I paddled the large burn in Idaho last year for two weeks on day trips and bigger water (unloaded). I liked being on top, the volume, and speed. My only bitch is that I felt like I was falling out of it when rolling. And that could be fixed with more foam in the seat. On multi-days it is sweet! If I
were to buy one boat, it would be the large.

You are welcome to demo my boats. I'm nursing a shoulder injury, so no availability problems, and I'm right next to the Green.

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  Quote PowWrangler Replybullet Posted: 23 Apr 2008 at 3:12pm
Thanks for all the thoughts, I guess I'll give the large a try and go from there.
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  Quote dave Replybullet Posted: 23 Apr 2008 at 8:40pm
Hmmm, I do like how the medium handles, maybe I just need to reoutfit it and get it dialed in better.
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