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dave
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   Posted: 06 May 2009 at 12:10pm |
 Im Telling you guys, this is the way to go! James already has the van, we just need an extra $50k for the Mars systems ramp, or RAID shown here...
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James
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Posted: 06 May 2009 at 12:21pm |
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thats actually my van in the picture... they took off all the goodies though :(
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RemAcct2
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Posted: 06 May 2009 at 12:24pm |
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Perhaps Raymond Handling Concepts would like to sponsor the ramp? No? Well, then Dave, you are of no use to us...
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dave
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Posted: 06 May 2009 at 1:01pm |
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If I was in control of RHCC I would certainly sponsor the project, but alas, I am but a lowly sales guy...
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dblanchard
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Posted: 06 May 2009 at 1:05pm |
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In all seriousness, a van/truck-based ramp make a lot of sense, but I think we could fabricate one for much less than the commercial option. That would solve the "no trailer" issue, at least until the vehicle's owner moves out of state.
In any case, I have some ideas for a design for next year's ball, so if anyone else is into design, let's put our heads together after clearing them with some river water. PM me if you are interested in designing a new one, or can provide details about what was wrong with last year's design. From the discussion, I'd guess that velocity had something to do with it, but not necessarily height. I think an astroturf or indoor/outdoor carpet surface with a pump dumping river water on the top would be faster than the lattice. I wasn't there, so I really can't say. I'm just impressed people build these and then jump off of them.
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Chuck e fresh
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Posted: 07 May 2009 at 12:24pm |
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I'm would love to help design, build and use it ! Last year there was little wrong with the ramp but it needed three improvements for sure. 1. Speed ; height / friction. 2. transition from drop ramp to take off tranny. Needs to be longer and a bit more wide. It needs to be at least 4 to 6 feet longer before starting the upward prt of tranny ( the take off transition ) 3. The take off part of tranny needs to be longer and wider by 4 ft as well. The ramp in a clip I saw a while back is what I'd modle the next P.P ramp from. They were launching into a swimming pool. That is the shizzy for a ramp modle. I think the top was made of sheet mtle and they had water running down it. You should be able to find it on P.P sick ramp or somthing. But if we could improve on those three things if not for this years ball then next years we'd B golden ! I've built alote of skate ramps and the only thing ever holding the build back is materials and hands. I know one thing though... "If you build it, they will come !!!"
Edited by Chuck e fresh - 07 May 2009 at 12:27pm
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There's no such word as can't!so stop making excuses!!!!
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RemAcct2
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Posted: 07 May 2009 at 12:27pm |
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I can assure you that you can't get much less friction that the material used (Polyethylene fence material). Height is what is needed.
Materials are expensive. That is really the issue. If someone came and sponsored the ramp, and was willing to provide all the materials, there would be no barrier to having a ramp.
Fortunately, there are a lot of other draws to the event besides a big air ramp.
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dblanchard
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Posted: 07 May 2009 at 1:15pm |
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Thanks Leif,
It looked like wood to me, and wet wood is only slick when you don't want it to be.
James, I've sent you a PM on this.
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Ryan
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Posted: 07 May 2009 at 2:23pm |
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Using the one from last year is totally acceptable. Sure we'd like it to be bigger and better but I'd love to get on last years ramp compared to none at all.
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RemAcct2
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Posted: 07 May 2009 at 2:38pm |
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Ryan - it is available to use. You will have to rent scafolding, purchase bolts/guy wire, and get a trailer to take it from gig harbor to the site.
Are you volunteering?
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Ryan
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Posted: 07 May 2009 at 3:34pm |
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No, I have zero construction/engineering experience. I wouldn't know where to start. I could tow it if needed.
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RemAcct2
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Posted: 07 May 2009 at 6:59pm |
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Would you like to source the trailer and fund scafolding rental?
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RemAcct2
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Posted: 11 May 2009 at 7:31pm |
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So, let me get this straight. Everyone wants a ramp, but no one wants to help make it happen.
Nice.
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dblanchard
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Posted: 11 May 2009 at 10:06pm |
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There are a few of us putting our heads together, and any naysayers will be given grief for not doing more than prod us. Shall I put you on the list of contributers, Lief, or the list of boobies?
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RemAcct2
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Posted: 11 May 2009 at 10:16pm |
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I've got my hands full leading up to the event with some other aspects of planning, but am happy to lend a hand if someone else is driving the project.
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Larry
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Posted: 11 May 2009 at 10:39pm |
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It may be too late for this year, and I have no way get it to and from the site, But I have plenty of scaffolding. Last year 5' wide was used, and mine is either 3' or 3'6" wide, So that might make a difference too. But I thought I should let you know I can make it available.
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RemAcct2
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Posted: 11 May 2009 at 10:41pm |
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Someone have a trailer? I have a truck...
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hugo
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Posted: 12 May 2009 at 12:23am |
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I humped that bliss stick babe in a trailer.
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suck it
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rayw
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Posted: 12 May 2009 at 12:37am |
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has anyone priced out how much it would be to rent a trailer and scaffolding so that we can use last years? it seems like it is a little to late to go about building an entirely new ramp.
Hugo, you may want to get checked, syphilis kills
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Tobin
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Posted: 12 May 2009 at 6:03pm |
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OK, Do people want the ramp or not?
It is in the storage yard at my work. It can easily be made taller.
I have stayed away from this because of a sour taste left in my mouth after last years ball by a few people and their criticisms.
Contact Rick at United rentals in Gig Harbor, he essentially donated the scaffolding rental last year. He probably would again as I wrote a thank you letter and dropped off pictures and a video.
If there is an overall decision in favor of having it, I will assist the best a one armed man can.
Cheers
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Sure?
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