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  Quote Wiggins Replybullet Topic: Why doesn’t anyone run the Stilly?
    Posted: 18 Jan 2006 at 10:14pm

That and the Suiattle have been on my list of rivers I want to paddle for a long time, but I never see anyone listing trips for them, or any boaters on these rivers when I am in the area.

Does anyone paddle these rivers anymore?

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  Quote Otter Boy Replybullet Posted: 19 Jan 2006 at 11:56am

My theory is these rivers don't get a lot of use because there are better runs around. I've only run the Stilli a couple times at low water. It is boring as hell.

I ran the Suiattle several years back. It's a scenic class III+ run, but there tends to be a LOT of wood. Last report I heard is that the wood situation got worse with last year's storms. Bottom line, a lower effort/fun ratio than our "standard" rivers.

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  Quote James Replybullet Posted: 19 Jan 2006 at 12:17pm
I am sure you will find people are more interested in these different runs later in the season when they have been burned out on all the normal stuff. Of course the bummer is that by then most of these other runs are lower water or dry. 
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  Quote jblum Replybullet Posted: 19 Jan 2006 at 6:12pm
The Suiattle is a death trap. Class III rapids, class VI consequences. There
are log jams 20 feet high and a half mile long in places. A swim on this river
would very very scary, if not deadly. There is only one rapid that is cool at
all, and there are at least 100 places to die... I just try to stay off it now
days..

As for the Stilly, I'd love to go explore Robe Canyon at a lowish flow some
weekend. Let get one going!

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  Quote James Replybullet Posted: 19 Jan 2006 at 6:54pm
As for Robe Canyon, I would say that we should probably make our exploration at a medium flow. Lower flows on the stilly have alot of sieves and pins.

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  Quote waterwacko Replybullet Posted: 19 Jan 2006 at 7:09pm
Oh, I thought you were talking about the III-IV run above Robe, which at about 11 feet or so is a HOOT! It's actually a little 'big water scary'. I did it about 4 years ago and completed the run in about 45 minutes. It was in the trees, crazy water, weird flood currents, boils, the whole 9. No one swam and it is now a great story, so I reccommend it.
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  Quote Wiggins Replybullet Posted: 19 Jan 2006 at 8:26pm

Originally posted by jblum

The Suiattle is a death trap. Class III rapids, class VI consequences. There
are log jams 20 feet high and a half mile long in places. A swim on this river
would very very scary, if not deadly. There is only one rapid that is cool at
all, and there are at least 100 places to die... I just try to stay off it now
days..

As for the Stilly, I'd love to go explore Robe Canyon at a lowish flow some
weekend. Let get one going!

I got to say, you make a pretty good argument for not running the Suiattle! Everytime I patroled Suiattle River Road when I was working up there this summer I was amazed at how beautiful it was. I was tempted to try it, but without someone who knew the river I didn't want to put-in. Glad now I was not a little bolder (or boreder).

I'll leave Robe Canyon to more experienced paddlers. My constant shrieking and crying for mommy would probably ruin the trip anyway.

I just think it is interesting that with all the drainages in Western Washington it seems like only three or four of them are run on a regular basis.

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  Quote jblum Replybullet Posted: 19 Jan 2006 at 10:44pm

Kyle,

I totally agree with you.  We need to expand our boating horizons past the Sky and Snoqualamie drainages.  That said, everyone goes to the places that are the best overall, and I can never turn down a good day on the Sky.  I'm really glad to see lots of people getting on the Sultan thi year... what a great run!

The Sauk is also good for III boaters, with few dangerous spots and some fun rapids!  A lot of boaters overlook it and head to the Sky instead for a close to seattle run.  Another favorite of mine is the Green, which is always good above 1,200 and has a beautiful gorge.  A must do if you haven't already!

I'm always up for running some new stuff, so keep the posts coming and we'll get on some fresh runs soon!

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  Quote Otter Boy Replybullet Posted: 20 Jan 2006 at 10:06am

I've noticed the tendency to stick to the "big three" as well. Frankly I'll drive across the state to avoid another trip on the Sky. It's a fantastic run, but there is so much else out there. I think a lot of it has to do with the trend towards playboating. If a wave's in, a lot of yakers don't mind doing the same run weekend after weekend. I'm not a playboat, so I focus on getting in as many new runs per year as possible. It's all a matter of what you're into, I guess.

Kyle, I'm always looking to do new runs too. In fact, those of us who are into new rivers should communicate more. Hey, we can form a cabal. We'll call it The Cult of the Anti-Sky!

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  Quote Wiggins Replybullet Posted: 20 Jan 2006 at 7:01pm
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Hey, we can form a cabal. We'll call it The Cult of the Anti-Sky!

I'm in, but only if we get hooded robes for the secret meetings!

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  Quote Courtney Replybullet Posted: 21 Jan 2006 at 7:05am

I'll go run the Stilly with you.  It's not far from the house so I have hit it a couple of times.  Courtney is close to being due so it won't be unitl late spring probably though.

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  Quote Joel_Werdell Replybullet Posted: 21 Jan 2006 at 12:12pm

I was actually thinking about paddling the Stilly Tomorrow morning depending on the level.  Other wise probably going to the Saulk.  If anyone is interested give me a call on my cell 509-868-4374

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  Quote Carter_M Replybullet Posted: 21 Jan 2006 at 9:15pm

Joel, I talked with you Sat. evening about paddling the Sauk on Sunday. Give me a call and let me know if you're still thinking about it early Sunday-360-676-8121. I might bring a friend of mine from Bellingham down with me.

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