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Posted: 17 Mar 2009 at 12:01pm |
I know I shouldn't celebrate this but...
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/41343402.htmlI think this will allow us to have more runnable days on the Green this spring and fall. Just don't buy a house in the valley!!!! What they need to do is get rid of the dam altogether and return the
area to its original state of natural beauty before the greedy land
developers and power hungry politicians built it.
Edited by dave - 17 Mar 2009 at 12:07pm
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Posted: 17 Mar 2009 at 3:49pm |
Army Corps of Engineers projects anything below 65 feet being underwater in a strong flood event. From 15th north in Auburn, all the way to Renton. Parts of downtown Kent 10 ft. deep. Possible closure of 167.
Raymond will be underwater.
Better update that disaster plan.
Expect a great spring on the Green as the dam is only safe to 1/3 capacity.
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Posted: 17 Mar 2009 at 3:50pm |
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P.S. above data provided at a town meeting in Auburn hosted by the corps of engineers.
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Posted: 17 Mar 2009 at 6:01pm |
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That would be awsome! I could kayak to work!!!
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Posted: 17 Mar 2009 at 11:18pm |
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Dave - All your customers will be broke due to massive losses of inventory and facilities.
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Posted: 18 Mar 2009 at 9:49am |
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James
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Posted: 18 Mar 2009 at 10:20am |
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He could technically still kayak to work though. Its not really like he does work when he goes there right now anyway!!!!
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Posted: 18 Mar 2009 at 3:29pm |
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I am woking right now....well kinda...maybe not cause I am on this website right now, but I will work soon, promise...
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Posted: 18 Mar 2009 at 3:38pm |
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I read the article and it still blows me away that people would build in the valley knowing they would flood every year. Dont people have brains? Farm the valley live in the hills...
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Posted: 18 Mar 2009 at 4:37pm |
They're all little dutch boys who like to stick their fingers in dikes. 
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Posted: 19 Mar 2009 at 8:12am |
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You know, James mentioned this earlier, the dam was built specifically for flood control. If it was used for the purpose it was built, we would have better kayaking flows and it probably wouldnt have been damaged. But, some years ago some brainiac decided it would be a great idea to supply Seattle with water from the dam and ever since then it has screwed everything up. Greed and power once again hurts our society, when will they learn?
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Posted: 11 Jun 2009 at 9:29am |
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FYI for Green River paddlers.
The following was reported on the WRRR board a couple days ago regarding the 6/9/09 refill meeting.
the word from the refill meeting conference call today is that the corp is going
to continue to raise the reservoir above the maximum high conservation pool
level of 1167'. They are capturing about 400 cfs a day through the end of the
week. They will not let the Auburn gauge go below 900 cfs however. The corp says
that starting Friday afternoon or Saturday morning they will draw the res back
down to 1167' over a 4 day period. The best guess is that flows for this coming
weekend will be in the 900-1400 cfs range.
Looks like good flows this weekend on the Green. Inflow is still over 1000 cfs, so with the added bump from drawing the res back down it could be real nice.
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Posted: 11 Jun 2009 at 1:06pm |
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Jimmy and I are interested in paddling this weekend. One of us on Saturday and the other on Sunday. If anyone is interested in camping at Kanaskat Palmer State Park let us know. We will likley be out of internet service starting tomorrow around noon so call us at 2O6-7nine4--92one5.
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Posted: 11 Jun 2009 at 3:54pm |
Originally posted by dave
You know, James mentioned this earlier, the dam was built
specifically for flood control. If it was used for the purpose it was
built, we would have better kayaking flows and it probably wouldnt have
been damaged. But, some years ago some brainiac decided it would be a
great idea to supply Seattle with water from the dam and ever since
then it has screwed everything up. Greed and power once again hurts our
society, when will they learn?
Damn right. Dam keepers can be real jerk heads. I pretty
much consider the Green a novelty run because their are no predictable
dependable flows on that piece. The Army Corps guys are the
worst. Big attitudes and a know it all approach to everything up
there. I can think of a few other damns that screw rec uses on
rivers within a hundred miles of that one. NIsqually??
I know we are supposed to be nice to these people but I continually get
frustrated by the power trips people and entities get from controlling
the flow of a river for whatever purpose they think is necessary.
I refuse to kiss their ass. Their goal is to keep people off the
river kind of like property owners who won't let people portage around
a dangerous rapid if it involves being on their land....but...we've
already gone there...
Everyone's got their rights....we wouldn't want to infringe on anyones'
right to control the river. Don't you know those guys are saving
the salmon!!!??
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MORE RAIN PLEASE
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Posted: 11 Jun 2009 at 4:36pm |
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I disagree franz.
Army engineers are just dudes in a seat trying to keep a job, if they protested and refused to abide by the plan they would just be replaced by someone who would. For the most part flows and a rivers fate are determined by politicians. Mainly by politicians that maintain relationships with larger corporations be it power, water or other utilities. The bottom line is that this is not a simple yell at the guy in the hard hat situation.
We all have a part in the equation and generally our societies complacency is ultimately to blame.
Edited by James - 11 Jun 2009 at 4:37pm
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