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River Name Run Submitted Beta Submitted By Submitted On Approved By
Miller, East Fork
Dorothy Lake trail to Smoothie (70 foot slide)
jP 1/26/2012 12:20:00 AM jP
^ Notes: Minor punctuation and/or grammar. Changed one sentence in "Other Issues" field to elliminate first person ( edited "I think") ~jP
Pilchuck Creek
1 - Lake Cavanaugh Road to Pilchuck Creek Campsite
jP 1/22/2012 1:52:00 PM jP
Pilchuck Creek
1 - Lake Cavanaugh Road to Pilchuck Creek Campsite
jP 1/22/2012 1:43:00 PM jP
Pilchuck Creek
1 - Lake Cavanaugh Road to Pilchuck Creek Campsite
jP 1/22/2012 1:23:00 PM jP
Pilchuck Creek
2 - Pilchuck Creek Campsite to Highway 9 Bridge
jP 1/22/2012 1:00:00 PM jP
Pilchuck Creek
2 - Pilchuck Creek Campsite to Highway 9 Bridge
jP 1/22/2012 12:15:00 PM jP
Pilchuck Creek
1 - Lake Cavanaugh Road to Pilchuck Creek Campsite
jP 1/21/2012 7:04:00 PM jP
Entiat
1. Cottonwood Campground to Three River Campground
James 1/13/2012 10:25:00 AM James
Big Silver
1. Gorges 1 & 2 (Upper)
James 1/12/2012 9:29:00 AM James
Stillaguamish, S. Fork
2 - Mallardy Creek to Verlot (Middle)
JoesKayak 1/4/2012 4:06:00 PM JoesKayak
Stillaguamish, S. Fork
2 - Mallardy Creek to Verlot (Middle)
JoesKayak 1/4/2012 4:03:00 PM JoesKayak
Stillaguamish, S. Fork
3 - Verlot to Granite Falls (Robe Canyon Run)
Ellingferd 1/3/2012 11:13:00 AM James
Matheny Creek
FR 21 Bridge to Q-1800 Bridge (Lower)
jP 1/2/2012 11:41:00 PM jP
Tilton
2. Bremer to Ike Kinswa State Park (Lower)
jP 1/2/2012 10:56:00 PM jP
Matheny Creek
FR 21 Bridge to Q-1800 Bridge (Lower)
geomorph 1/2/2012 10:12:00 PM jP
Tilton
2. Bremer to Ike Kinswa State Park (Lower)
geomorph 1/2/2012 9:11:00 PM jP
^ Notes: I run the Tilton with Chris (Bigwater) all the time and we just got back from two days on it (2200 cfs and 1700cfs). Great play and great rapids both days with no wood hazards at all (I'll take pictures next time). I thought the river description wasn't very helpful so I'm providing my take. Feel free to edit or delete entirely.
Matheny Creek
North Fork to FR 21 Bridge (Upper & Middle)
jP 12/30/2011 12:26:00 AM jP
Green
2. Kanaskat Palmer to Paradise (Upper Gorge)
jP 12/28/2011 10:27:00 PM jP
Puyallup
2 - Kapowsin Road Bridge to Highway 162
jP 12/26/2011 10:53:00 PM jP
Puyallup
2 - Kapowsin Road Bridge to Highway 162
jP 12/26/2011 10:53:00 PM jP
Puyallup
2 - Kapowsin Road Bridge to Highway 162
jP 12/26/2011 10:53:00 PM jP
Quinault
1. Pony Bridge to Graves Creek
Hulkster 12/22/2011 3:35:00 PM jP
^ Notes: I could not enter info into the Flow Approximations. Based on Korbs description and our experience I would say [gauge:ID*.25] would be a good approximation of flows for this reach.
Icicle Creek
4 - Snow Creek trailhead to Leavenworth Hatchery (Lower)
jP 12/11/2011 7:11:00 PM jP
Icicle Creek
3 - Ricochet Section (Middle)
jP 12/11/2011 6:07:00 PM jP
Icicle Creek
3 - Ricochet Section (Middle)
jP 12/11/2011 5:58:00 PM jP
Icicle Creek
3 - Ricochet Section (Middle)
jP 12/11/2011 5:51:00 PM jP
Icicle Creek
2 - Ida Creek to Eight Mile Creek (Upper)
jP 12/11/2011 5:00:00 PM jP
^ Notes: Added new beta regarding 2011 mudslides, and some other details.-jP
Green
3. Paradise to Flaming Geyser State Park (Lower Gorge)
jP 12/11/2011 4:03:00 PM jP
Snoqualmie, S. Fork
4. Twin Falls State Park to 436 st Bridge
jwcook 12/10/2011 3:02:00 PM Jed Hawkes
Green
2. Kanaskat Palmer to Paradise (Upper Gorge)
jP 12/4/2011 10:02:00 PM jP
Green
3. Paradise to Flaming Geyser State Park (Lower Gorge)
jP 12/4/2011 9:54:00 PM jP
Green
3. Paradise to Flaming Geyser State Park (Lower Gorge)
jP 12/4/2011 9:53:00 PM jP
^ Notes: Spelling
Green
3. Paradise to Flaming Geyser State Park (Lower Gorge)
jP 12/4/2011 9:50:00 PM jP
^ Notes: Added more detail.
Green
2. Kanaskat Palmer to Paradise (Upper Gorge)
jP 12/4/2011 8:40:00 PM jP
^ Notes: general editing, and updating info.
Green
2. Kanaskat Palmer to Paradise (Upper Gorge)
jP 12/4/2011 6:19:00 PM jP
Green
2. Kanaskat Palmer to Paradise (Upper Gorge)
jP 12/4/2011 6:11:00 PM jP
^ Notes: Clarified details, changed a few minor ones, corrected some typos...
Wynoochee
Wynoochee Reservoir to Save Creek
James 12/1/2011 11:43:00 AM James
Stillaguamish, S. Fork
3 - Verlot to Granite Falls (Robe Canyon Run)
James 11/30/2011 9:03:00 AM James
Stillaguamish, S. Fork
3 - Verlot to Granite Falls (Robe Canyon Run)
Fish 11/30/2011 6:43:00 AM James
^ Notes: Paddlers should scout the lowere half of Off Broadway. The Right side seam is now a suck hole seam and paddlers should consider going left at most flows until the floods change this one again.
Baker Creek
Old Bridge to Middle Satsop
jP 11/29/2011 10:11:00 PM jP
^ Notes: Gotta let 'em know!
Satsop, Middle Fork
2. Fool's Canyon (Baker Creek to Kelly Hall Road spur)
jP 11/29/2011 9:58:00 PM jP
^ Notes: Just puttin in my 2 cents!
Chelan
Chelan PUD Hydro Project to Columbia River (Chelan Gorge)
tiziak 11/29/2011 8:37:00 PM jP
Chelan
Chelan PUD Hydro Project to Columbia River (Chelan Gorge)
tiziak 11/29/2011 8:33:00 PM jP
Chelan
Chelan PUD Hydro Project to Columbia River (Chelan Gorge)
tiziak 11/29/2011 8:30:00 PM jP
Satsop, Middle Fork
2. Fool's Canyon (Baker Creek to Kelly Hall Road spur)
septimus prime 11/25/2011 8:29:00 PM Jed Hawkes
^ Notes: Ran it on 11/25/2011 at 5500cfs. Confirmed report of run at 7000. Probably the upper level for mortals.
Calawah, S. Fork
Rugged Ridge Trail to Hyas Creek
Jed Hawkes 11/24/2011 8:28:00 PM Jed Hawkes
^ Notes: River Level beta is based solely on hearsay.
Snoqualmie, N. Fork
1. Big Creek to Spur 10 Bridge (Upper)
JoesKayak 11/13/2011 5:15:00 PM JoesKayak
^ Notes: added info about Hancock access permits
Snoqualmie, S. Fork
4. Twin Falls State Park to 436 st Bridge
briandunnington 11/1/2011 6:28:00 PM James
^ Notes: just updated the put-in directions since the sign actually says 'Olallie State Park' not 'Twin Falls State Park'
Jefferson Creek
Elk Lake to Hamma Hamma
water wacko 10/28/2011 12:26:00 PM James
Sauk
2 - Whitechuck River to Clear Creek
JoesKayak 10/21/2011 8:15:00 AM JoesKayak
Miller, East Fork
Dorothy Lake trail to Smoothie (70 foot slide)
water wacko 10/19/2011 10:04:00 AM James
Jefferson Creek
Elk Lake to Hamma Hamma
water wacko 10/19/2011 9:58:00 AM James
^ Notes: Hey, I've adjusted the gauge info again, but noticed the Jefferson page hasn't updated yet, since I put up the first gauge adjustment on 10/13.
St. Louis
B) Hwy.61 (Scanlon) to CR210 (
BrianP 10/13/2011 3:53:00 PM James
Jefferson Creek
Elk Lake to Hamma Hamma
water wacko 10/13/2011 5:18:00 AM James
Jefferson Creek
Elk Lake to Hamma Hamma
water wacko 10/13/2011 5:15:00 AM James
^ Notes: I put the NF Skok gauge in the "river gauge section at the top of the page and since this river uses a blend of 2 gauges I put the Dosewallips gauge in the "forecast link" box. Hopefully it works out. I'm just trying to make the whole gauge reading thing easier. Maybe James can format the page differently to accommodate both gauges, but my main goal was to make both gauges accessible from the home page 'link' when I put this page up on my rivers list and it appears on the home page. We shall see if it works!
Klickitat
4 - Fishing Access on Highway 142 (Lyle Gorge)
jP 10/12/2011 11:52:00 PM jP
^ Notes: I just wanted to add my 2 cents and clarify who (Ben) was providing beta on the above 3,000 flow.
Deer Creek
Bridge at Rick Creek to mouth (town of Oso)
water wacko 10/12/2011 9:37:00 PM jP
Deer Creek
Bridge at Rick Creek to mouth (town of Oso)
water wacko 10/11/2011 7:40:00 AM JoesKayak
Snoqualmie
1. Blue Hole to Snoqualmie Falls
tkelley 10/9/2011 8:13:00 PM James
Callaghan Creek
Waterfalls to Cal-Cheak Campsite
jP 10/3/2011 6:33:00 PM jP
^ Notes: Stephano is a BC local who frequents this sight (and Robe when he's down this way), so when he said the guage listed does not correlate, I figure he's as trusted of a source we got on PP for this beta.
Callaghan Creek
Waterfalls to Cal-Cheak Campsite
stefano 10/3/2011 12:49:00 PM jP
^ Notes: Some of the beta was way off (length of the run, distances for the shuttle etc.). "Chunder Hall" is normally referred to as the Old Dirty Bastard, which I fixed in the Run Description. It also needs to be fixed on the rapid list side bar, but I didn't have access to that (they refer to the island drop as ODB there). This beta page suggests the Cheakamus gauge can be used for Callaghan levels. There is really no correlation between the Callaghan and Cheak, so the link to the gauge should probably be removed.
Callaghan Creek
Waterfalls and Goodness to CalCheak Confluence
chipmaney 10/3/2011 8:03:00 AM JoesKayak
South Praire Creek
1. E. Fork to Spiketon Rd. (Upper)
jP 10/1/2011 8:35:00 PM jP
^ Notes: -just edited some obvious typos and put space between the two paragraghs. Otherwise made no change to the text.
Norrish Creek
Lower Canyon to Bridge
fiddleyak 9/23/2011 1:47:00 PM jP
Birkenhead
1. Upper Birkenhead
chipmaney 9/20/2011 5:43:00 PM jP
Chelan
Chelan PUD Hydro Project to Columbia River (Chelan Gorge)
water wacko 9/13/2011 11:07:00 AM JoesKayak
Lochsa
3 - Wilderness Gateway bridge to Split Creek Pack Bridge
PanchosPigTaxi 9/6/2011 4:32:00 PM James
Dosewallips
1. Dosewallips Falls to Elkhorn Campground
WA-Boater 9/5/2011 10:33:00 PM James
Dosewallips
1. Dosewallips Falls to Elkhorn Campground
chipmaney 9/4/2011 2:26:00 PM James
^ Notes: The second paragrph of the run description states the rapids are "read and run" except for the issue of wood. This is patently untrue. The river is V-V+ and full of sieves and, for some people, portages. Every one of the 5-6 major rapids is a mandatory scout, and the upper section (upstream of where the dude who wrote the run description put-in) is full of blind corners that are also mandatory scouts. Consider revising the language in the run description.
Elwha
1. Grand Canyon
jP 8/29/2011 6:15:00 PM jP
Lewis, N. Fork
3. Lewis Falls Run (Park & Huck)
water wacko 8/29/2011 12:23:00 AM JoesKayak
Ohanepecosh
Ohanepecosh Campground to La Wis Wis Campground
James 8/25/2011 9:39:00 AM James
Ohanepecosh
Ohanepecosh Campground to La Wis Wis Campground
kurle 8/24/2011 9:19:00 PM James
^ Notes: james Fixed some wierd azz shiazz going on.
Cascade
2 - Marble Creek Campground to bridge near Skagit
franzhorner 8/22/2011 3:20:00 PM JoesKayak
^ Notes: Updated to reiterate Phil Kincare's concern that there is still rebar where the bridge used to be in bridge wreck rapid. The "Chicken Channel" could be a lot more dangerous than taking the regular line...... Updated the take out situation.
Canyon Creek (Stilly)
2.Hampton Tree Farm Bridge to Fishing Access
JoesKayak 8/16/2011 8:43:00 AM JoesKayak
Chilliwack
1. Chilliwack Canyon Run
JoesKayak 8/15/2011 9:52:00 PM JoesKayak
Chilliwack
1. Chilliwack Canyon Run
JoesKayak 8/15/2011 9:51:00 PM JoesKayak
Cooper River
Waterfall to Cle Elum River
kurle 8/12/2011 8:37:00 PM Jed Hawkes
Carbon
1 - Fairfax to 177th St. East
fiddleyak 8/10/2011 9:04:00 AM James
^ Notes: I had a really unfortunate, short conversation with Alonzo on Sunday. Basically, I was told that we could not take out at his property. I'm not sure exactly what happened recently. I feel that we should not have information about this takeout posted online. I don't think that taking out on 177th st was that big of a deal. Also added a bit more information on Rick's Slide.
Cascade
2 - Marble Creek Campground to bridge near Skagit
chipmaney 8/9/2011 4:20:00 PM James
^ Notes: I updated the max flow based on recent PP posts and beta on the AW website. I added a clarification of recommended flows in "Other Issues"
Snoqualmie, N. Fork
2. Spur 10 Bridge to 428th St. Bridge (Ernies Canyon)
Fish 8/7/2011 7:33:00 PM JoesKayak
^ Notes: 300 cfs is the minimum flow on this run. I run Ernies weekly, and as a regular in here i know of no one who can make it down on 250 cfs as stated in here previously. Fish
Tye
1. Surprise Creek to Alpine Falls (Upper)
water wacko 8/5/2011 6:29:00 PM JoesKayak
Little White Salmon
Willard to Columbia River
water wacko 8/5/2011 6:28:00 PM JoesKayak
Miller, East Fork
Dorothy Lake trail to Smoothie (70 foot slide)
water wacko 8/5/2011 6:26:00 PM JoesKayak
Dipper Creek
Carpenter Creek to Squamish River
fiddleyak 8/4/2011 12:16:00 PM James
Chehalis River/Statlu Creek
Canyon Run
Wiggins 8/2/2011 2:49:00 AM JoesKayak
Sauk
2 - Whitechuck River to Clear Creek
JoesKayak 7/27/2011 3:29:00 PM JoesKayak
Icicle Creek
4 - Snow Creek trailhead to Leavenworth Hatchery (Lower)
jP 7/26/2011 12:01:00 PM jP
Cooper River
Waterfall to Cle Elum River
Jed Hawkes 7/21/2011 9:21:00 AM Jed Hawkes
Miller, East Fork
Dorothy Lake trail to Smoothie (70 foot slide)
water wacko 7/20/2011 7:17:00 AM JoesKayak
Silver Creek (Sky)
2. Quartz Creek to North Fork Skykomish
tradguy2 7/18/2011 8:19:00 PM JoesKayak
Miller, East Fork
Dorothy Lake trail to Smoothie (70 foot slide)
water wacko 7/18/2011 8:33:00 AM JoesKayak
Wenatchee
4. State Play (Leavenworthless to Cashmere)
jP 7/17/2011 11:58:00 PM jP
Miller, East Fork
Dorothy Lake trail to Smoothie
water wacko 7/17/2011 10:49:00 PM JoesKayak
Stillaguamish, S. Fork
2 - Mallardy Creek to Verlot (Middle)
JoesKayak 7/9/2011 9:38:00 PM JoesKayak
^ Notes: Noted big log jam is gone and a few other updates
Tshletshy
Headwaters to Queets Campground
water wacko 7/8/2011 2:21:00 PM Jed Hawkes
Teanaway, N. Fork
Johnson Creek to Stafford Creek
JayB 7/2/2011 10:46:00 PM James
Nooksack, N. Fork
3 - Douglas Fir Campground to Mt. Baker
dberger007 7/2/2011 7:04:00 PM JoesKayak
^ Notes: the river dosnt braid after the gracier take out there are about 6 more fun class 2+ rapids down to the green bridge with beautiful views of mt baker
Wenatchee
4. State Play (Leavenworthless to Cashmere)
jP 7/2/2011 8:51:00 AM jP
^ Notes: Just some minor editing to tighten shit up a wee bit. - jP
Wenatchee
4. State Play (Leavenworthless to Cashmere)
jP 7/2/2011 8:35:00 AM jP
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