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sbeck206
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 Topic: Spare Paddle? Posted: 07 May 2012 at 10:57am |
After finding ourselves up a creek (or river) without a paddle on the last two trips, it's time to get a spare paddle. Last month a member of our group lost his paddle in Leap of Faith on the Tilton and this weekend I lost my paddle on the middle SF Stilly. On difficult, remote runs a spare is a must (as we found out the hard way after having to hike out of the canyon), but it would be nice to carry one on easier, more accessible runs too.
I mainly IK (I have a hardshell but don't have a solid roll). How many of you guys carry a spare paddle on a regular basis? What kind of spare do you use? I was looking at getting a PTR break-apart, has anyone used one of these? The other option is a cheap-o recreational break-apart from Dicks Sporting Goods.
Also, what is the best way to rig a spare in an IK?
Thanks.
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Scott_H
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 Posted: 07 May 2012 at 12:04pm |
I carry a Werner break down - have only had to use it once. Very solid though. In a perfect world every boater would have one with them, but at least one per group of 3-4 is nice. Kind of pricey buggers for something you hope to never use, but I think you could get by with the cheaper one depending on the type of water you are running. But the higher the class of the river, the more you want something solid to get you out of whatever stretch just ate your main paddle.
Edited by Scott_H - 07 May 2012 at 1:08pm
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WA-Boater
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 Posted: 07 May 2012 at 12:58pm |
I throw in some hand paddles. Small, lightweight, seldomly needed and usually get you to the next place you can hike out.
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FLUID
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 Posted: 07 May 2012 at 6:22pm |
I have an Auquabound four piece that is very light and very cheap for a really good brake down paddle. If hiking out is not an option (i.e 50 miles deep) paddling out with something is better than nothing. Werner is good too but a little pricy for a spair and not any lighter than the Auquabound
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dave
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 Posted: 07 May 2012 at 6:32pm |
Never carried one in 21 years. Hand paddles are better than nothing. Probably should carry those at least.
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JoesKayak
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 Posted: 07 May 2012 at 7:07pm |
A spare paddle should not be viewed as an optional accessory. Every kayaker should have one. Sure, you may opt not to take it sometimes... on easier runs that you could just walk out of easy. Short roadside runs... But you should have one. And if you have to spend a few bucks... big deal! Unlike the paddle you use on the crik...and beat up on a weekly basis, your spare should last you pretty much forever.
I have a werner 3-piece. Now they make a 4-piece which is even more packable. In my IK I keep it secure inside a mesh bag and strap it down flat to the floor... unless I'm packed with overnight gear, then I lie it flat to the gear bag and strap it down tight to that.
Brian's idea of getting an older werner for cheap is a great idea. You can even get one way longer than you'd normally use, because when you have it converted to a break-down you can have it resized to whatever size you like. I believe werner will customize your paddle for a fee.
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Wiggins
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 Posted: 07 May 2012 at 8:46pm |
I had and lost a 4 pc Werner, and I have a Lendal emergency paddle for my kayaks. The Lendal is cheap at $175, it is bomber, but it is heavy as hell. If I had to buy another one I would get another Werner.
I keep hand paddles in my playboat.
I have a PTR canoe paddle that I converted to a break down. It is ok, but heavy. I am looking to replace it.
I have been on enough trips where a paddle has been lost or broken I consider it a must have item.
Kyle
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JoesKayak
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 Posted: 07 May 2012 at 10:58pm |
Also, since you say you're an IKer... two more pieces of equipment nice to have along:
Spare pump. EZ pump and K pump make good, small packable pumps.
Repair kit. You should have a comprehensive kit for wilderness trips, including patching stuff, spare valve and valve wrench, for AIRE boats, a spare bladder is a bad-ass piece of repair gear to have. But for everyday trips a package of Tear Aid is nice to have and a small roll of duct tape is always good to have... it can be counted as part of your first aid kit too.
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apexskier
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 Posted: 08 May 2012 at 12:50pm |
+1 for the hand paddles (as a hardsheller)
I had a nasty experience in Granny's on the Wenatchee a couple years back and ended up being surfed with no paddle. Once I got out I pulled out my hand paddles real quick and my Dad and I were able to chase down my paddle.
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KBfree
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 Posted: 08 May 2012 at 9:34pm |
I have been on the receiving end of a breakdown paddle many times and have personally broken 7 paddles. I have never had to walk off the river because there was always a spare breakdown in the group. If you can afford this essential piece of safety gear, it will undoubtedly come in handy someday.
Kirk
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SupaSta
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 Posted: 10 May 2012 at 1:25am |
I carry a 4-piece werner with plastic blades whenever I'm not in my playboat. I got it a while ago after a hike out of the green - that sucked big time.
I've only had to use it once. It was weird, but definitely better than hiking out.
dan
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jP
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 Posted: 10 May 2012 at 12:18pm |
Dito on the hand paddles. If I feel I need a backup, I pack my pair of NRS neoprene webbed finger style hand paddles. Lightweight (never really need them), and they'll at least get ya between drops- you can portage stuff that you don't feel comfortable hand paddling.
In an IK, the bulk of the tubes may hinder the effectiveness of hand paddles. My suggestion (not to offend my inflatible loving bretheren): solidify your roll. Hardshell more and swim less. There is a whole world of possibilities out there!
Kirk- you broke 7 paddles? Dude, in 30 years I don't think I've owned that many. Here's some tips to cure that:
1) play a game when you paddle through class II/III shallow rock gardens: if you hit a rock at all with boat or paddle, that's a penalty. Runs you do over and over like the Sky (the entrance to lunch hole), keep score each run.
2) add more water. If there's less rock to hit, there's less chance of breaking a paddle.
3) work on the timing of your strokes. Yup. It ALWAYS comes back to THE FIRST FUNDEMENTAL: The Forward Stroke. Practice makes perfect, yet perfection is always a boat length (or more) downstream of where you are...
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