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  Quote peele Replybullet Topic: Welding a Cracked Boat
    Posted: 08 May 2012 at 9:21pm
So I managed to crack my burn this weekend and was lookin for some advice.

I have about a 3" crack in the bottom of the boat and was hoping I would be able to weld it up.

Are you able to weld the burns?

anybody have a method that has worked well for them?

just some general tips on how not to melt my boat into a puddle?

I was thinking a soddering iron with a chunk of plastic from the cockpit ring.
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  Quote JD_G Replybullet Posted: 08 May 2012 at 9:25pm
Drill the ends of the crack to stop it from getting worse. Pond seam tape from Home Depot is a great interim / long term solution.
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  Quote Jed Hawkes Replybullet Posted: 08 May 2012 at 9:26pm
http://liquidlogickayaks.com/liquidTV/welding.swf

You can weld pyranhas.

This video is from the liquid logic site, but it's the same technique. My recommendation is to get a heat gun that has a fine point nozzle just like the one on the video. My heat gun's fine point tip is still pretty wide and heats up too much of the surface area on the hull and gets the whole area pretty gooey. With that said, speed is key other wise you can melt a big hole right in the hull.

Hope it helps.

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  Quote Jed Hawkes Replybullet Posted: 08 May 2012 at 9:27pm
No soldering iron, burns the plastic as it melts it.
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  Quote brig Replybullet Posted: 08 May 2012 at 10:40pm
Hey Peelie, just read Leif's email. Ive always used the liquid logic method, works great. I use a heat gun and make sure you take it slow. Don't rush. My most recent welds on the Nomad will outlast the boat. Go buy yourself a good scraper too. If I lived on that side I'd walk you through it. Valuable skill fo sho.

Jed, met you camping a couple of weeks ago on the east side. If I see you out you're welcome to take my nomad for a spin.
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  Quote Travisimo Replybullet Posted: 09 May 2012 at 12:25am
If you can make it to Mukilteo... I have a plastic welder and have done many.  If you get the boat all ready and can locate a small strip of plastic... or cut one from you cockpit...  I'll help ya do it.  The downside is you'll have to work around my (sometimes crazy schedule).  I've done many successful welds but no guarantee.  You can check out my welds before you trust me and try yourself if you think you'll do better .

Alternatively.. I have lots of Wavesport plastic... not 100% sure it's the exact same but we could use that too. 
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  Quote fiddleyak Replybullet Posted: 09 May 2012 at 8:45am
I've heard that a plastic welder works really well.
I've had good success with a heat gun. Like others said, take your time and don't get the plastic too hot. It shouldn't starts smoking or discolor. Surprisingly, it's really not that difficult. Before your first weld practice on some spare plastic. I usually fill in the crack from the outside and then weld a big piece on the inside.
I've got red and green pyrahna plastic if you need a bit. For a long time I used Wavesport plastic on a Pyranha but recently discovered that matching plastics works way better.
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  Quote Lynn Wang Replybullet Posted: 09 May 2012 at 12:53pm

I have a Jackson 2010 Star that needs welding. I'll pay for the service (but please don't gouge me). Call me 2067double nine4zero8three. I will txt you a picture of the crack for the assessment.

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  Quote peele Replybullet Posted: 09 May 2012 at 1:18pm
Hey All thanks for all the good info.
 
that liquid logic video was just the thing i needed and hopefully with all the hints my attempt at welding will be a success!
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  Quote brig Replybullet Posted: 09 May 2012 at 4:03pm
Hey Lynn, I don't know if you've tried yet or not...but Jackson has a great warranty, and they might be able to take care of you. May have to buy a new shell, but that's better than a weld. Also, I'm not sure if things have changed in the world of plastic....but I seem to remember cross-link not being weldable.....not sure if yours is cross-link...just a thought.
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  Quote jP Replybullet Posted: 09 May 2012 at 7:31pm
Originally posted by Lynn Wang

but please don't gouge me


That's what my boat said!

Seriously: a crucial step that will help you yeild superior results is to put your boat in an enclosed space and heat the whole thing up to 75 or 80 degrees before you weld it. In this way you will reduce the difference of temperture between the focused area you are heating up and the surrounding area. The plastic will yeild more readily to your heat gun or other tool and will tend to smoke/ blacken less. Try it.
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  Quote JayN Replybullet Posted: 10 May 2012 at 10:16am
Fiddleyak, where are you located? I'm in dire need of some pyrahna plastic.

-Jay

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  Quote Jed Hawkes Replybullet Posted: 10 May 2012 at 11:31am
I'm pretty sure you can't weld jackson boats.
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  Quote jP Replybullet Posted: 10 May 2012 at 11:43am
Ask our resident Wacko- he should know. He has a Jackson fetish
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  Quote brig Replybullet Posted: 10 May 2012 at 3:17pm
Linear can be welded, Cross-link can not.
I think they offered both in 2010....not sure though.
Seriously though, I'd call JK....they'll most likely help you out.

Edited by brig - 10 May 2012 at 3:29pm
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