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nelsonwoods
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 Topic: tent? Posted: 27 Dec 2011 at 9:26am |
I'm looking for a tent that will fit in my jefe for overnight trips. what do you guys recommend that wont break my wallet? thanks
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Courtney
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 Posted: 27 Dec 2011 at 9:49am |
My favorite tent is the Sierra Designs Clip Flashlight CD. It fit's one person and a dog very comfortably. They make them to fit more though. Here's a few questions that would help pin point down a good tent for you. Do you want a free standing tent or non-free standing (what type of ground surface will you primarily be sleeping on)? 3 season or 4 season (will you be snow camping)? How many people will be sleeping in it? How often will you be using it? What is your price range?
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Courtney
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 Posted: 27 Dec 2011 at 9:50am |
One more question, is weight an issue?
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nelsonwoods
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 Posted: 27 Dec 2011 at 10:15am |
basically i am good with either freestanding or not. i am looking at the marmot home alone bivy. only thing i will be using it for is kayaking overnighters and maybe the occasional backpacking trip. was going to go with the nemo gogo le but the place i was going to get it at sold out and is no longer offering them. i want something for 1 person that is light and packs small. would like to keep it under 200 if possible.
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nelsonwoods
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 Posted: 27 Dec 2011 at 10:21am |
would like it to be an all in one. no separate rain fly.
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warlickone
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 Posted: 27 Dec 2011 at 12:58pm |
Hey,
After owning bivy sacks for some time, I finally got rid of mine. Without poles to hold the fabric up off of you, a bivy sack will get you wet from condensation. They are best for survival bivy sleeping above treeline and in the alpine environment. They are best when it's well below freezing.
I think for ultralight camping the tarp/groundcloth setup is the way to go. I'm not experienced in it, but have been around others doing it. The guys under the tarp were always way more sheltered protected and dry than the bivy folks. And, you can have a tarp system that weighs less than a gore tex bivy. With a tarp, you can get yourself and all of your gear out of the rain. With a bivy, everything inevitably gets wet if it's rainy. If you get a fancy bivy with poles and so forth, you approach or equal the weight of the lightest real tents out there. I'd say either get the lightest tent on the market, or get a tarp. Not a bivy sack.
The only reason not to tarp it would be for wind protection and insect protection. Otherwise, the tarp system looks awesome. I guess one has to get over wanting the cosy feeling of being zipped up in a tent too. Mice can crawl over your head in the night without things being zipped up. Anyway, those are my thoughts.
Have fun...
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GHannam
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 Posted: 27 Dec 2011 at 1:28pm |
I have a one-person, 3-season tent that I use for most of my multiday trips (kayaking, backpacking, climbing, etc...), and I love it. First and foremost though, if you're going to use it for kayaking, keep weight in mind but know you can separate the tent into pieces to help distribute the weight in your boat (very important!), and also keep in mind how small the frame pieces break down to and the max length you can store them in your boat. Secondly, know when you're going to need it and in what climates (temperature, ground cover, humidity, gear needed to be stored inside, etc...). My suggestion would be to look at Amazon. Below are a few links to some tents that were on the first page I searched on, within your price range:
Good luck!
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nelsonwoods
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 Posted: 27 Dec 2011 at 1:42pm |
thanks for all the tips. i have it boiled down to 2 so far.
http://www.backcountry.com/marmot-home-alone-bivy
http://www.backcountry.com/the-north-face-tadpole-23-bx-tent-2-person-3-season
the bivy is small and lightweight. it also has poles to told it up off of my sleeping bag. The tent is a little bigger but can be separated and spread out in the back of my boat and i can get it from rei for a lifetime warranty.
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warlickone
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 Posted: 27 Dec 2011 at 1:51pm |
You're on the right track...the bivy must have some method of keeping the fabric up off of your bag. Either guy lines or poles. The bivies that are wet are the minimalist ones where the bivy is in contact with your sleeping bag. Good research.
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phil
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 Posted: 27 Dec 2011 at 2:36pm |
A friend of mine has that North Face tent and brings it on boating trips. It kicks ass, and packs down extremely small. One flaw is there's a flat spot in the middle of the fly, and if you don't seal the seams running through there carefully you can get leaks.
Bivies, on the other hand, pretty much suck.
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phil
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 Posted: 27 Dec 2011 at 2:38pm |
Also in wet weather, single wall tents are no good. You do want a separate rainfly, you'll stay drier.
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Ellingferd
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 Posted: 27 Dec 2011 at 3:07pm |
http://www.backcountry.com/msr-hubba-tent-1-person-3-season
Half the weight for a not much more than the TNF tadpole. Bet you could find it online cheaper somewhere, and you can set it up with just the fly and footprint or the whole thing.
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jP
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 Posted: 28 Dec 2011 at 12:17am |
I rock two tarps:
1) any old cheap tarp for a ground cloth
2) Kelty "Noah's Tarp" for shelter. I recommend the 12' size. Some cord to tie it to branches and trees.
3) collapesable pole optional.
I've found this basic setup to be lighter and less bulky than most tents. Quite adequate for this region in most conditions.
Edited by jP - 28 Dec 2011 at 12:18am
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jondufay
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 Posted: 28 Dec 2011 at 9:09am |
Agree with warlick. If you use a bivy, make sure you put on dry base layers ( that is where a good portion of moisture comes from) and get some ventilation going. That being said, my set up of choice is the ultra light tarp and bivy combo...tried and true in many rain storms.
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 Posted: 28 Dec 2011 at 11:06am |
Yeah, I often bring a bivvy sac to put my sleepn bag in, but moisture management is critical.
Noah's Tarp is smartly designed, and about $70. The only limitations to how you set it up lie in your own imagination. Admittedly it helps to have at least one tree to string off of. But, look around. Where are we? Pretty much always at least one tree available.
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nelsonwoods
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 Posted: 28 Dec 2011 at 1:34pm |
i like the msr hubba tent that ellingferd recommended. its small, compact, lightweight, and freestanding. soon as i get paid on the first, gonna get it from rei. thanks for all the tips and help on this topic. hopefully we still get to do the green trip next month so i can try it out.
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