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  Quote ChristianKnight Replybullet Topic: Relay race on the Skykomish in July or August
    Posted: 01 Apr 2009 at 10:57pm
Paddlers,
I've been mulling the idea of organizing a relay race (Sam Nutton suggested we do it in relay style) on the Skykomish. The race would have two or three legs.
Under the three-leg format, the race would begin either on the North Fork, or if the water is too low by then (it probably will be), it will start at the confluence and end at Big Eddy (the raft take-out).
Here's how the three-leg format would work:
Leg 1: North Fork (or Confluence) to Anderson Hole.
Leg 2: Anderson Hole through Fisherman's.
Leg 3: Below Fisherman's to Big Eddy.
The advantage of the three-leg format is that it would enable paddlers of three skill levels to compete. The disadvantage is this: If the first leg begins at the Confluence instead of the North Fork, that first leg would be very short. Maybe just five or seven minutes long.
The other option is to format the race into two legs, with the first leg starting at the Confluence and ending at Anderson and the second leg beginning at Anderson and finishing at the Confluence. This means longer legs, so, especially in late July or early August, it becomes a little more of an endurance race with some whitewater mixed in. And, because teams are of two, instead of three paddlers, we should have more teams. The disadvantage is that it eliminates that beginner-class leg.
Before I get serious about this idea, I want to know a.) how much interest is out there and b.) what you guys think of the format options and c.) am I missing something regarding the dates. I like the idea of July/August because the water level will be reliably low, the weather should be reliably nice and nothing else (except BC stuff) is going on then.
Please let me know.
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  Quote Gabe Replybullet Posted: 02 Apr 2009 at 7:41am
how about 4 legs?

1) Confluence through BD
2) Bottom of BD - Split Rock
3) Split Rock - Fisherman's
4) Fisherman's - Big Eddy

That would still allow class IV and class II paddlers to compete on the same team, and makes the lengths a little longer giving everyone some decent rapids. Also each of those spots is an access point. I haven't mapped it though to see if those legs would even be roughly equal in length.


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  Quote BRoss Replybullet Posted: 02 Apr 2009 at 8:25am
I think that sounds like a blast. Would it be head to head mass start or a time trial type race?
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  Quote ChristianKnight Replybullet Posted: 02 Apr 2009 at 9:33am
It'd be a mass-start race. It'd be chaotic. But I think the low water would allow multiple lines through each rapid and I'm thinking people would race the section that's at least one class lower than what they are capable of.
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  Quote rokmnky Replybullet Posted: 02 Apr 2009 at 12:25pm
that sounds like fun. Guess i need to get back in a big boat some to practice.
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  Quote Guests Replybullet Posted: 02 Apr 2009 at 1:00pm
sounds like fun
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  Quote Fish Replybullet Posted: 02 Apr 2009 at 2:14pm
A mid July, sky relay race sound great!    Given how popular the river is, and low summer flows,  i'd imagine lots of people coming out to compete and hangout with friends.  I'll be there for sure!
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  Quote BRoss Replybullet Posted: 02 Apr 2009 at 2:18pm
Sounds fun for sure. As the mysterious Boofsquire would say: Red Bull in hand, ladies on shore! miss that guy... :)
http://www.worldkayak.com/article_wk.cfm?newsid=178
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  Quote jP Replybullet Posted: 02 Apr 2009 at 2:33pm
Great Idea!!
 
There's absolutely no way I'm going to race in a boat shorter than 9' though. Not on the Sky.
 
Needless to say, too: I'd be really interested in the Boulder Drop leg. It may be hard to get enough racers of varying skill levels together to make appropriate teams. Ussually it's the class IV-V crowd that has a hunger for racing. Can we expect to find enough class II and III paddlers for the other legs?
 
I like the mass start idea, too. The river is plenty big to accomodate that.
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  Quote Liz Replybullet Posted: 03 Apr 2009 at 6:21am
[QUOTE=bdrkayaker]Sounds fun for sure. As the mysterious Boofsquire would say: Red Bull in hand, ladies on shore! miss that guy... :)
http://www.worldkayak.com/article_wk.cfm?newsid=178[/QUOTE]
 
 
Uhm, let's not assume that the ladies will be on shore. 
 
This does sound like a fun event, and I'd be game for participating in a leg (II-III, although I think I swim through BD rather quickly ).  I must say, I feel like a much faster paddler after a little Heather Herbeck instruction last night.  At least I made it across the pool pretty quick.  Ha!
 
 
 
 
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  Quote BRoss Replybullet Posted: 03 Apr 2009 at 7:39am
Oops, not exactly what I meant! sorry - SYOTR
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  Quote Tobin Replybullet Posted: 03 Apr 2009 at 8:59am
Liz,
  You get in the boat, I'll be on shore with the beer.
 
Christian, I think it is a great idea. I won't be back paddling by then, but would be happy to help out with race day tasks.
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Edited by Tobin - 03 Apr 2009 at 3:29pm
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  Quote LisaF Replybullet Posted: 03 Apr 2009 at 3:17pm
Count me in, too! I like mid-July because you know there will be SOME water. BTW, you don't have to be a class II paddler to do the class II leg - you just have to be FAST!
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  Quote kbelenky Replybullet Posted: 05 Apr 2009 at 12:16pm
Here's what such a mob on Boulder Drop might look like.
http://picasaweb.google.com/kbelenky/KayakingPhotos02#5321089493154220194

As for the actual race, I'm a definite maybe. I suspect (like someone said earlier) that you'll have a much easier time finding people who want to do the Boulder Drop stretch than the Big Eddy stretch.
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  Quote BRoss Replybullet Posted: 05 Apr 2009 at 9:26pm
that is a sweet pic. It makes boulder drop look really long. beautiful day to be on the water fo sho
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  Quote James Replybullet Posted: 05 Apr 2009 at 10:09pm
That is a rad photo Kennet!!!

I could look at that all day long behind my desk at work, picking new combinations and routes through such a park like rapid !!!

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