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dave
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James
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 Posted: 29 Aug 2007 at 10:38am |
nooo not SRK either... How about the Arboretum and then we could play freaking Kayak polo afterwards.
UW vs PP
oh ... a challenge that would be!
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ashleygoesdisco
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 Posted: 29 Aug 2007 at 10:39am |
 Isn't the water relatively disgusting down there....
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Ashley Duffus
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dave
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 Posted: 29 Aug 2007 at 10:40am |
I still want to see Chickens that paddle. Get it, Sea chickens......hahahaah
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 Posted: 29 Aug 2007 at 10:42am |
yea but who really cares ... Its not like were in the womb or anything. All the growths I am going to get are done growing.
J
Oh crap ... I didn't just say that.... Joel is starting to itch....
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ashleygoesdisco
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Ashley Duffus
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Jeff
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 Posted: 29 Aug 2007 at 3:37pm |
I vote for Powerhouse, and I'm willing to help anyone who want to learn the back deck hand roll! I still can't quite get it off side though. I'm thinking of heading there Thurs. night 'round 5:30. Quick run down from the falls and there are still plenty of deep calm spots to practice. Having a good handroll is really important, espescially if you happen to say, break your paddle 20 min. into the Nahatlatch play run and don't want to walk out. That was sweet with hand paddles!
They call me "Clutch Rollingsworth".. (Thanks Erik!)
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Ryan
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 Posted: 29 Aug 2007 at 6:15pm |
So, Powerhouse or UW? I'm up for either.
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water wacko
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 Posted: 29 Aug 2007 at 8:29pm |
If you guys want I can give you some pointers at SRK Tues after work. I have a project going about 15 min from there. We can work on rolling, flatwater, handrolls, whatever. There's a dock you can seal launch from and turn it into a loop. I looped the Mega Rocker that way! PM me and if there are more than 3 I'm there.
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LuckyLiam
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 Posted: 30 Aug 2007 at 12:44pm |
I take an occassional flatwater lunch breaks midweek in eastside lake WA. Usually Marsh park if anyone is interested in joining. I can't just reneg on myself if meeting someone.
Otter, your a softie right?
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Otter Boy
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 Posted: 30 Aug 2007 at 1:20pm |
Yes, I serve the Hive Mind.
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James
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Funny cuz I serve the Bee Hind!
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LuckyLiam
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 Posted: 30 Aug 2007 at 3:56pm |

I noticed you're always out front on probe duty
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ashleygoesdisco
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 Posted: 30 Aug 2007 at 3:58pm |
Originally posted by Otter BoyYes, I serve the Hive Mind.
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Ashley Duffus
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Wog67
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 Posted: 30 Aug 2007 at 5:46pm |
I am always up for rolling practice.. although some days I think I should be doing swim practice....
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Flip, rinse, repeat.
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Chuck e fresh
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 Posted: 31 Aug 2007 at 12:09am |
How many paddler's does it take to roll right ..... ??? give up.... me too !!! Head down biatch.
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There's no such word as can't!so stop making excuses!!!!
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ashleygoesdisco
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 Posted: 31 Aug 2007 at 7:25am |
So... I had my own little roll session on Lake WA the other night. I think I discovered my problem. I think its the paddle. For those of you who haven't seen me on the river, I have a Fluid paddle, funky shaped blades, carbon fiber, etc. I was out on the lake in a Star, which is normally the same, or harder to roll than my 2Fun, and I was using a AT2 Flexi. The rolls were coming like nothing. AND. For the first time in my LIFE. I got about ten offside rolls, and a couple offside backdeck rolls. No one ever helped me figure that one out. I just flipped and set up and apparently, I know how to do it.
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Ashley Duffus
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justin
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 Posted: 31 Aug 2007 at 7:37am |
Does that mean your thinking of switching paddles? I've always thought your paddle looked sweet.
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ashleygoesdisco
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 Posted: 31 Aug 2007 at 7:58am |
I love my paddle!! But... If its a problem... ITS OUT. I'm taking both to Idaho this weekend, gonna test my theory on some real water. But if thats the problem, yeah, the good ol Fluid will be goin' up fo sale.
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Ashley Duffus
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arnobarno
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 Posted: 31 Aug 2007 at 8:44am |
Ashley, Bet you $1 it isn't your paddle?? IMHO, more likely it is your wrist position and the blade position - which may need to be different for your offside roll depending on feather angle between the two paddles. Is the leading blade flat/neutral on the surface? Effortless rolls are done with the blade angle neutral throughout the roll. A climbing blade angle causes many people to muscle their rolls (me included when I don't set up properly).
One thing that was helpful for Deborah and I was to film each other while we were rolling. You can playback the movie and see what you are doing right or wrong. Perhaps at the next roll session, someone can film you.
my two cents, arn
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huckin harms
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this is all so ... funny
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LuckyLiam
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 Posted: 31 Aug 2007 at 9:06am |
yeah, time to roll another one.
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ashleygoesdisco
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Arn- I've been playing around with my roll for ages. Tweaking my hand positions, etc. But when you flip in the middle of a rapid, you don't really have time to be adjusting all sorts of little things. I've always liked the bent shaft, because I know exactly where my blades are, because I can feel if my hands are off, so I don't think its that. I haven't changed hand positions, like, ever. The AT has much longer blades than my Fluid, which I think help me out quite a bit. Bracing was 10 times easier as well.... Like I said, I'm going to test it this weekend.
Are you saying my roll sucks?! 
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dave
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Arno! your still out there! How about a low water sky run this weekend?
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arnobarno
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Ashley, I'm definitely NOT saying your roll sucks. I've seen you pull off some combat rolls to save yourself from Chris' Crack, among other nasty places. As I said before, you had lots of grace under pressure. Still, I'd be surprised if it was the paddle itself vs. where the paddles ended up setup. That is to say that if you keep your hands the same but one paddle is working and the other isn't, it sounds like your hand position is correct for one paddle but not the other. It would be interesting (at least to me, hopefully to you) to have someone look at the blade position at the start of your offside roll with each paddle. Dave - I'm afraid of scratching my boat with the Sky that low!  Maybe some rain will bring it up this week - I'm dying to get out on the water (and, no, Last Nasty is not in my near future). Besides, I know that who you really want to see out there is the cookie fairy! arn
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