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Otter Boy
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   Topic: I need a new creeker
Posted: 09 Dec 2007 at 9:16pm |
My beloved CFS has developed another crack, and it think it's time for a new boat. I need some suggestions. I'm a class IV boater and am looking for a single boat which can run technical creeks (Foss, Rapid, Top Tye at low water) as well as bigger water (Lochsa). Playboating/surfing is not important.
Any recommendations?
- OB
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dragorossinw
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Posted: 09 Dec 2007 at 9:50pm |
Check out the DragoRossi Mafia or Critical Mass ( www.dragorossi.net) DragoRossi uses a Bow Ring system instead of a pillar, making it more ridged, and more foot room. I have demos of both if you are interested. You can get a barnd new on for $650 New, plus $80 shipping ( www.100waves.com).
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jondufay
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Posted: 09 Dec 2007 at 9:53pm |
i am in the same (leaky) boat as you. burn looks nice and paddles nice, but sounds like there is a collection of broken ones that is growing rapidly. nomad is good...but i can attest first hands to the durability of those...shit. jefe is still a good lookin boat, but again...one year and the hull is toast. any heads out there paddling a habitat? mystic? critical mass? shit, maybe i should just find an old Y or a blunt. those things seem to last forever....
i want to hear what other creekers are saying right now about thier boats...
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ahh, f--- it dude, lets go boating...
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water wacko
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Posted: 09 Dec 2007 at 10:14pm |
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Y's and Blunts are still around because they use crosslinked plastic... same as Jackson! Rocker? new Hero? outfitting is the shit. ask Kyle K about his recent pin and how the boat held up.
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hugo
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Posted: 09 Dec 2007 at 10:28pm |
Originally posted by water wacko
Y's and Blunts are still around because they use crosslinked plastic... same as Jackson! Rocker? new Hero? outfitting is the shit.
Jeeze, never saw that one coming...lemme know how that there jackson plastic is holding up after a few more runs down that there canyon creek of the stilliguamish in the low five foot range...?
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suck it
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ashleygoesdisco
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Posted: 09 Dec 2007 at 10:48pm |
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I'm rapidly becoming a fan of BlissSticks.... Try the Mystic.
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Tobin
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Posted: 09 Dec 2007 at 11:01pm |
Bryon, The Mystic is growing a following, I love the thing, and the durability is great.
You saw the dameage to my demo, it looks good as new now. I cant find anything bad about the outfitting.
Hit me up when you are heading out, I'll get it to you for a run or two. I dont have any in country for sale rigth now but the container is arriving in early January, it will also have the new Mini Mystics in it. Same boat but 64 gallons if you are looking smaller.
Later
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Sure?
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justin
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Posted: 10 Dec 2007 at 6:39am |
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The Y is a damn good boat if you have small legs. It handles like a pro and gets the job done, and the plastic is damn strong. The mystic is also a good choice if you ask me, it takes a trip or two to get used to, but is a pretty awesome boat. From what I've seen the burn handles like racecar, but the plastic is a little soft and there is no padding under the seat. People like the rocker but I like having a little bit of chine. Good luck finding what you want.
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dave
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Posted: 10 Dec 2007 at 8:39am |
You could always go play cowboys and Indians with a heat gun over at James house and fix that thing! ![]("smileys/smiley4.gif") http://professorpaddle.com/media/videoview.asp?File_Id=2252
Edited by dave - 10 Dec 2007 at 8:43am
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Posted: 10 Dec 2007 at 9:11am |
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Anyone want to buy my Jefe?
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Posted: 10 Dec 2007 at 9:33am |
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Leif... if you give it to me in a few weeks when I am back in the swing of things I could give it a NW Creeking Verification to certify that it is been tested on our local creeks. You never know it could add a little value to the sales process and I would only need it for around 4-5 months in the spring and summer to perform the certification process.
Just an offer.
~J
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Posted: 10 Dec 2007 at 9:46am |
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I can assure you I have thoroughly tested it on local creeks. I remember to the last boat you "tested" for "4-5 months"...
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Posted: 10 Dec 2007 at 9:56am |
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Don't act like I'm rob ... there is at least a fair chance you will get it back in one piece or at least repairable with me. Plus I was offering that service free, it was not like I was going to charge you for it or make you give me additional gear or peanuttle...
J
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Posted: 10 Dec 2007 at 10:13am |
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You are always welcome to peanuttle...
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ashleygoesdisco
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Posted: 10 Dec 2007 at 10:15am |
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Man, that sounds so strange.
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Ashley Duffus
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justin
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Posted: 10 Dec 2007 at 10:23am |
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lief, why do you wanna get rid of your jefe?
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Posted: 10 Dec 2007 at 10:26am |
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I have a Habitat 80 now, which I find to be far more comfortable, plus the added bonus that it likes to go where I ask it to.
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ashleygoesdisco
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Posted: 10 Dec 2007 at 10:39am |
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It's interesting to me that you say that, I hated the Jefe that day I was in it on the Lewis.
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Yotes
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Posted: 10 Dec 2007 at 10:48am |
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That's cause you're used to planing hulled boats. A displacement hull definately paddles differently, but has some real advantages in low volume, steeper runs.
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Posted: 10 Dec 2007 at 12:31pm |
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the UPS pool owns 2 mystics that you could try out. However, our last pool session of the semester is tonight. we will be going again late january. something of interest is that we will probably be selling off all our bliss sticks at the end of the year for a sweet price.
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Posted: 10 Dec 2007 at 12:31pm |
Originally posted by leifkirchoff
I have a Habitat 80 now, which I find to be far more comfortable, plus the added bonus that it likes to go where I ask it to.
Does that mean that you are going to start creeking?
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Posted: 10 Dec 2007 at 12:37pm |
Originally posted by hugo
Originally posted by leifkirchoffI have a Habitat 80 now, which I find to be far more comfortable, plus the added bonus that it likes to go where I ask it to.
Does that mean that you are going to start creeking? What's that supposed to mean? Does the fact that I stay off continuous class V mean I am not creeking?
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Posted: 10 Dec 2007 at 12:55pm |
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Oh no.... the hugo strikes again!!!
What do you get when you mix together Class V, a Jackson Kayak and Hugo?
(Hint=The answer is a two word anagram)
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Posted: 10 Dec 2007 at 1:02pm |
Originally posted by Yotes
That's cause you're used to planing hulled boats. A displacement hull definately paddles differently, but has some real advantages in low volume, steeper runs. I love the Jackson Rocker..... Thats more of a d. hull than anything.
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Posted: 10 Dec 2007 at 1:19pm |
Originally posted by leifkirchoff
I have a Habitat 80 now, which I find to be far more comfortable, plus the added bonus that it likes to go where I ask it to.
Originally posted by hugo
Does that mean that you are going to start creeking?
That made me laugh.
Edited by PowWrangler - 10 Dec 2007 at 1:21pm
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