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Tricky Woo
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   Posted: 11 Dec 2007 at 2:37pm |
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A big part of the durability issue is the amount of plastic. Most mfgrs have gone with less plastic, because we paddlers complained about weight. Never understood this complaint, as it doesn't matter on the water. And frankly some of you weaklings would have difficulty picking up your shadow if it wasn't attached.
For what it's worth, I haven't found an issue with chines on the low and medium volume runs. But I'm also not trying to paddle the boat sideways on purpose either. I have a Burn and love it, but Pyranha is less than stellar about supporting their warranty from what I've heard.
Get out and demo and come up with your own conclusion
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Erik
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Posted: 11 Dec 2007 at 2:49pm |
Man, I wish you could request a "heavy" lay up on a creeker. I'll happily lug around an extra 5 lbs of material for my hull...and it's freakin' shadow (tuff-guy-jerky).
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dave
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Posted: 11 Dec 2007 at 2:57pm |
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I don't have a shadow, it left me a long time ago, somewhere in the twilight zone.
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Tobin
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Posted: 11 Dec 2007 at 4:18pm |
Originally posted by ErikMan, I wish you could request a "heavy" lay up on a creeker. I'll happily lug around an extra 5 lbs of material for my hull...and it's freakin' shadow (tuff-guy-jerky).
yeah? what color? $850 and $85 if i gotta ship it to you. If you order now, it will come on the next container, otherwise its April.
Oh check out the new high vis red, you'll never loose a boat again.
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RemAcct2
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Posted: 11 Dec 2007 at 4:20pm |
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...Because Tobin knows that coffee is for closers...
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Erik
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Posted: 11 Dec 2007 at 4:36pm |
I looked around BS interweb site, and I don't see anything about a heavy lay up option. Did I miss something? Is that a policy of theirs? I'd like to know that it's possible.
BS doesn't really offer anything geared towards the big boys. I like big boats...80 - 85 gallon range. 8 1/2 feet or so. Mystic isn't really a big boys boat.
I don't need a boat anyways...at least not yet. We need to stay focused on Otterboy.
Then...I realized that one went right over my head. Holy spacing out at work. I need to stay off the internets.
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hugo
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Posted: 11 Dec 2007 at 4:40pm |
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Could not find anything either....any word on the habitat durability?
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Posted: 11 Dec 2007 at 4:45pm |
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I haven't had any problem with my Habitat 80. The plastic feels harder than the Jacksons, Burn, Jefe, etc. Don't know if that will ultimately be a good or bad thing.
...Oh, wait. Apparently I never run creeks. I guess I wouldn't know.
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hugo
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Posted: 11 Dec 2007 at 4:52pm |
Originally posted by leifkirchoff
...Oh, wait. Apparently I never run creeks. I guess I wouldn't know.
sweet dude, thanks, just let us know when you do...
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Otter Boy
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Posted: 11 Dec 2007 at 5:00pm |
Originally posted by ErikI looked around BS interweb site, and I don't see anything about a heavy lay up option. Did I miss something? Is that a policy of theirs? I'd like to know that it's possible.
BS doesn't really offer anything geared towards the big boys. I like big boats...80 - 85 gallon range. 8 1/2 feet or so. Mystic isn't really a big boys boat.
I don't need a boat anyways...at least not yet. We need to stay focused on Otterboy.
Thanks, Erik. I'm glad at least someone remembers it's all about me.
- OB
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Posted: 11 Dec 2007 at 5:10pm |
I am sorry Otterboy.
I really like your hat.
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Posted: 11 Dec 2007 at 5:15pm |
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Will do.
What is this about King Chili in your signature?
Relations with inanimate objects is a significant mental disorder, known as paraphilia, and often linked to a Borderline Personality Disorder, as defined by the DSM IV. I have done a bit of research, and evidently this particular disorder tends to relate to childhood sexual abuse, and thus the finding of stability in inanimate objects. There are of course, other reasons, though, left untreated, suicide is often a result, and we wouldn't want that.
What was this thread about, again?
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Posted: 11 Dec 2007 at 6:34pm |
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And it was good...
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Posted: 11 Dec 2007 at 6:40pm |
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That's not what I heard.
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justin
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Posted: 11 Dec 2007 at 6:48pm |
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So O.B. has this thread been any help or just another display of how off topic a thread can get on this site?
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hugo
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Posted: 11 Dec 2007 at 7:35pm |
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uh...sick burn brah!
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Otter Boy
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Posted: 12 Dec 2007 at 8:02am |
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Yeah, this has helped a lot. I'll start with a Nomad, then demo a Burn and Mystic.
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huckin harms
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Posted: 12 Dec 2007 at 8:10am |
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ditto the Burn- good crossover from playboating hulls. even if it broke (God forbid) I'd replace it just the same. at the moment - unrivaled hull design. the outfitting sucks, but small penance if willing to modify some. also, customer service is lame. but oh well ....
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PaulGamache
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Posted: 12 Dec 2007 at 10:11am |
Hey OB,
We paddled the Green Gorge a last Tuesday together w/ Rob, Darin, and Ben.
How's it goin?
In terms of looking for a new creeker you should definetly check out the Habitat 80. I had a CFS right before getting an 80 and it felt like a glove on me. The first time I paddled it I felt super solid and the boat responded to me really well. I felt so confident that within 20 minutes of paddling the boat for the first time I was firing of the drop pictured below. ("Stupid Falls",Upper East, CO)
For those who care I am on the west coast regional team for WS. Regardless this is still the best creeker I've ever been in, it just fits me really well. Everyone is shaped differently so go try out boats before you buy one. You're welcome to borrow my 80 anytime if you want to demo it.
Paul
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Tobin
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Posted: 12 Dec 2007 at 1:03pm |
Originally posted by ErikI looked around BS interweb site, and I don't see anything about a heavy lay up option. Did I miss something? Is that a policy of theirs? I'd like to know that it's possible.
BS doesn't really offer anything geared towards the big boys. I like big boats...80 - 85 gallon range. 8 1/2 feet or so. Mystic isn't really a big boys boat.
Didn't you see see Lord of the Rings, NZ is a land of hobbits. Of course we dont make big boy boats. Freakin tall guys bitchin again cuz thay cant fit.
Its not the boats fault, its yours, if your mother had fed you coffe at age 6 and hobbled your feet, you would be just fine. Have you thought of pole vault, or reaching high things as a sport. You'd be well suited for it.
Oh and if you want more plastic, buy me a half rack and place an order, custom graphics too.
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James
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Posted: 12 Dec 2007 at 1:45pm |
After reading all of this I am convinced there is a new business opportunity here.
So starting today I am going to offer a new service I am calling the "Hull Protection Program"
If you have a boat that needs some extra plastic added to the hull,
give me a call and I can layer it on for you. I am going to base the
pricing off of units of plastic used during the process. Much like Bliss Stick I am going to offer different colors, designs and even plastic attitude so you can make your boat as nice or mean as you desire!
The rates and packages should look something like this:
Full Hull Protection - $29.99 - Includes 1 full tribe with chief and an equal sized posse in pursuit - Character Quality is promised.
Hull TeePee - $12.99 - Includes 1 squaw and brave with possible livestock included. Character Quality is promised.
Hull Abuse- $1.99 - Includes 1
brave and 1 cowboy with additional support. Character quality is usually
poor and is not promised. Some say plastic is plastic ... but you might
not want these little nasties in your hull.
Example of Hull Abuse Package (Colors are optional, but because the plastic is cheap the quality of these guys is pretty bad. I would not trust them at all if it were me):
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Tobin
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Posted: 12 Dec 2007 at 2:37pm |
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Whats the blue guy doing? and with a gun to his head, is this a Pulp Fiction scene?
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Erik
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Posted: 12 Dec 2007 at 3:24pm |
Newtobin...quit freakin' harassing me.
Not sure what a hobbit is? Is that from Dungeons & Dragons?
Can you get me a Nomad or Everest with a extra plastic? I'll buy you a half-rack then, k?
Tall = long arms = good for smacking newtobin across back of head.
Now go pick on someone else. I have work to do. I'm serious...leave me alone.
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Posted: 12 Dec 2007 at 3:27pm |
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Tobin may be short, but I'd put money on him against anyone else on this thread...feisty little bugger, he is.
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ashleygoesdisco
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Posted: 12 Dec 2007 at 3:39pm |
Against me? Come on. You saw that blood gushing out of his lip when I smacked him... ![]("smileys/smiley22.gif")
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